Peter King: You have to go back to 1997 to find a draft like this one

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not opposed to trading a 3rd or 4th for Foles and having him COMPETE for a starting job.

We both know that's not what's going to happen. They'll hand him the keys.

There's absolutely no way to spin it otherwise - it IS Matt Cassel all over again.

Except that it's not.
Foles is a 24 year old kid, who started and played well in college, who has a good arm and played pretty well on a shit team with little help as a rookie.

Cassel never played a down of college football, has a weak arm and took what had been an 18-1 team the previous season to a 10-6 record (with the scheduling gods playing the Pats against what was a horrible NFC West).

You cannot compare him to Cassel, they're nothing alike in any way, shape, form, experience level, background, physical attribute, or potential. They are literally two white guys who play QB and the similarity ends there.

The situation would be more like when GB traded a #2 for Brett Favre back in like '91 or '92 or whatever. If Reid thinks Foles is better than any of the possible draftees I'm good with it. I'd still like a high-ish pick to hedge the bet, though, and I like Nassib as a guy you could groom and hedge the bet.

I don't think Reid just hands anyone anything, it doesn't seem to be his MO. I would expect that Foles would start over any second round QB and Stanzi just based on past performance, but I don't think Reid would stick with him if there's a better player on the bench like Pioli did.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

The situation would be more like when GB traded a #2 for Brett Favre back in like '91 or '92 or whatever.

and even thats pushing it. Favre barely even played for the Falcons in 91, so Foles has alot more experience at this point in his career than Favre did.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Except that it's not.
Foles is a 24 year old kid, who started and played well in college, who has a good arm and played pretty well on a shit team with little help as a rookie.

No, he's a former 3rd round pick who played good (not great) in a 1-read spread offense, taking almost 80% of his snaps out of the shotgun.

He played flat above average ball as rookie while still taking 75% of his snaps out of the shotgun.

The ONLY reason he's even being talked about is because people are suddenly ready to just blindly trust Reid, as if the whole Scott Pioli thing never happened.

What's funny is the Chiefs have shown exactly ZERO interest in Nick Foles and the Eagles have shown exactly ZERO interest in trading him.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What's funny is the Chiefs have shown exactly ZERO interest in Nick Foles and the Eagles have shown exactly ZERO interest in trading him.

THIS, we can agree on. I wouldn't if I were Philly, with Vick the only other real option.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

THIS, we can agree on. I wouldn't if I were Philly, with Vick the only other real option.

Yep, I said it the other day.

Foles has more upside than Vick and Dixon COMBINED.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Except that it's not.
Foles is a 24 year old kid, who started and played well in college, who has a good arm and played pretty well on a shit team with little help as a rookie.

Cassel never played a down of college football, has a weak arm and took what had been an 18-1 team the previous season to a 10-6 record (with the scheduling gods playing the Pats against what was a horrible NFC West).

You cannot compare him to Cassel, they're nothing alike in any way, shape, form, experience level, background, physical attribute, or potential. They are literally two white guys who play QB and the similarity ends there.

The situation would be more like when GB traded a #2 for Brett Favre back in like '91 or '92 or whatever. If Reid thinks Foles is better than any of the possible draftees I'm good with it. I'd still like a high-ish pick to hedge the bet, though, and I like Nassib as a guy you could groom and hedge the bet.

I don't think Reid just hands anyone anything, it doesn't seem to be his MO. I would expect that Foles would start over any second round QB and Stanzi just based on past performance, but I don't think Reid would stick with him if there's a better player on the bench like ***** did.

This, all day. good post.