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Old 12-19-2010, 03:44 PM  
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I think its time for the Cassel doubters to eat their crow
The kid deserves some respect.

After todays game Im starting to believe in the guy as our quarterback. He just displayed a true testament of toughness out there and leadership.

To some people I understand its about him leading us to the playoffs and winning the superbowl in order for them to be satisfied...yada yada yada

Im not going to go by that mindset at all. I look at this game and I see the way he played and it tells me a lot about his character. We should be proud. We got a pretty good quarterback folks. That 2nd round pick we gave up was well worth it.

I think composure, toughness, and leadership are key attributes for a quarterback. Cassel has those qualities and I also love the fact that he plays with passion too.

However, I believe the number one attribute as a quarterback is the ability to respond under pressure. So now I don't want to jump the gun here and say he has that capability, but I will say, after coming back from an appendectomy and performing the way he did, is a great sign and a step in the direction towards performing well under pressure. So far so good Matt. Keep up the good work you sure as heck got my support.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:57 PM   #46
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He has to win in the playoffs. Bottom line. I want wins in January and February. This good in the regular season really don't mean shit when it comes down to it. Cassel has played the last couple of months with about everything we want in a franchise QB but it comes down to winning when it counts.
This game did count. All the games count. Without regular season wins you don't get to play in January and February.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:57 PM   #47
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Depends your definition of a franchise QB.

My definition is someone you can win a SB with. There are several of those guys in the league, including guys like Rodgers, Ryan, etc.

I want a QB at that level, at the least. Doesn't have to be Elway or Manning.
Keep hoping because it sure as heck ain't gonna happen. Cassel is here and I don't anticipate the Chiefs getting rid of him anytime soon. that doesn't just go for you, that goes for all the Cassel haters.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:59 PM   #48
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Who even gives a shit. Lets just keep winning.
I do. The guy has a ton of character. He'll probably never be one of the "elite" QBs of the league, nobody can question his grit and character and that counts a lot when you are the team's leader and can sometimes overcome athletic ability.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:59 PM   #49
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The same thing it will take for the entire team to convince me they've really turned around: meaningful games against good competition.

It's not his/their fault they've played the schedule that they have - they don't have any control over who lines up against them - but the fact remains that I have to see them do it against quality teams before I'm really convinced. I'm just not going to be sold before that point.

Maybe we'll see that in January. Maybe we'll see it in 2011. We're not going to see it in December. And that's not his fault.
I still see this as the stupidest ****ing arguement. Cassel hasn't proved he can be our QB because he hasn't beat the teams we haven't played.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:00 PM   #50
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The team responded today to plays Cassel made when before they were lackluster on offense and defense.

He made the difference. The pass to Bowe was huge as well as his running.

Afraid to get hit, at Claython.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:00 PM   #51
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Keep hoping because it sure as heck ain't gonna happen.
What? You're saying Cassel is never going to be at the level of Matt Ryan?
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:00 PM   #52
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I really hate the term "franchise QB". There are about 7 of them across the NFL. That's 1 for every 4 teams in the league.

24 Passing TD's, 5 INT's this season.
If you don't like the guy...say that. Make sure everyone knows it's personal and has nothing to do with the way he performs on the field. To keep pretending he hasn't done enough for you to be content is bullshit.
Thing is, for all the talk of perspective, the real perspective we're all gonna get is what shitty shitty opponents we've been bequeathed by our 2009 record, the state of our AFCW, and our NFCW division opponent.

We're the Boise State of the NFL right now, impressive looking at times, but a lot of wondering how we'll fare against quality opponents.

FTR< that goes for the whole team.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:01 PM   #53
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I do. The guy has a ton of character. He'll probably never be one of the "elite" QBs of the league, nobody can question his grit and character and that counts a lot when you are the team's leader and can sometimes overcome athletic ability.
Getting a bunch of basement dwelling sports message board haters convinced of something that is obvious isn't a big deal.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:01 PM   #54
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I think a franchise QB is the QB who is the unquestioned leader of the team.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:01 PM   #55
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I will admit that I am of a different opinion of him over the last few weeks than I was the first few. He looks like he is starting to "get it". Threw his 1st pic in forever today and took his first sack that was HIS fault today in a long time as well. Last year that spelled a loss. Today he played through it, played through some adversity and injury and led his team to a must win on the road.
And that pick probably wasn't his fault. Either Bowe or Moeakai ran the wrong route because they were both at the same spot. He's playing with probably the worst receiver group in the NFL that constantly seem to be making mistakes and dropping the ball.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:02 PM   #56
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Depends your definition of a franchise QB.

My definition is someone you can win a SB with. There are several of those guys in the league, including guys like Rodgers, Ryan, etc.

I want a QB at that level, at the least. Doesn't have to be Elway or Manning.
Really? How many rings do Rodgers and Ryan have as starting QBs? I think it is the same number as Cassel as a starting QB.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:02 PM   #57
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I still see this as the stupidest ****ing arguement. Cassel hasn't proved he can be our QB because he hasn't beat the teams we haven't played.
You misunderstand. When I said in my initial post that he's shown he can be a game manager, I was saying that he has proven he can be our QB.

What I don't know is if he can be anything more than a game manager. Because he hasn't been put into that situation yet.
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So, Eli Manning is a franchise QB?

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson were?
I should probably rephrase.

Someone who gives the team a chance to a win a SB.

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson gave their defenses chances to win the SB.
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The team responded today to plays Cassel made when before they were lackluster on offense and defense.

He made the difference. The pass to Bowe was huge as well as his running.

Afraid to get hit, at Claython.
That long throw to Bowe was his best he's made in a Chiefs uniform, IMO.

More of that, please.
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No, it isn't.

He had an average game against a bad defense.

You people really need to have higher standards.

It was a gutty, winning peformance, but he has a ways to go before he proves he's worthy of being called a franchise QB. He has to play well the next three weeks in a row, or there will be questions.
Only you. JFC.

Cassel had a terrific performance today. It wasn't ****ing average. He led the team to a convincing victory despite the Chiefs' receivers ****ing up on four 3rd down situations in the 1st quarter, and Dex ****ing up on an opportunity to extend a 4th quarter drive.

He played well in spite of horrible play from his supporting cast. He was the Chiefs' offense today. Period.
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