Chiefs I think its time for the Cassel doubters to eat their crow - Page 5

RedThat · 12-19-2010, 03:44 PM

The kid deserves some respect.

After todays game Im starting to believe in the guy as our quarterback. He just displayed a true testament of toughness out there and leadership.

To some people I understand its about him leading us to the playoffs and winning the superbowl in order for them to be satisfied...yada yada yada

Im not going to go by that mindset at all. I look at this game and I see the way he played and it tells me a lot about his character. We should be proud. We got a pretty good quarterback folks. That 2nd round pick we gave up was well worth it.

I think composure, toughness, and leadership are key attributes for a quarterback. Cassel has those qualities and I also love the fact that he plays with passion too.

However, I believe the number one attribute as a quarterback is the ability to respond under pressure. So now I don't want to jump the gun here and say he has that capability, but I will say, after coming back from an appendectomy and performing the way he did, is a great sign and a step in the direction towards performing well under pressure. So far so good Matt. Keep up the good work

you sure as heck got my support.

Hammock Parties · 12-19-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Then your definition of a franchise QB extends to about half of the QBs in the NFL.

I think it's about 10-12 guys. Which just goes to show I don't have some unrealistic standard for Cassel.

RINGLEADER · 12-19-2010, 04:03 PM

I'll eat up -- he's shown me enough.

But I think he remains a work in progress. Put another way, though, if he was a QBOTF draft pick I'd be pleased at where he's at.

Now if we could only get him receivers who can catch the damn ball...

Lonewolf Ed · 12-19-2010, 04:03 PM

Cassel could have played a bit timidly after having surgery, but he didn't. He has guts, no doubt, and I am thinking his guts might be right up there with Deberg. He ran for a first down and should have had another. Maybe it's just me, but 11 days after an apendectomy, if I was playing, running the ball myself would probably be the last thing I wanted to do.

So hats off to Matt. Sus cajones son grandes, Cassel!

**The Bad Guy** · 12-19-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

The team responded today to plays Cassel made when before they were lackluster on offense and defense.

He made the difference. The pass to Bowe was huge as well as his running.

Afraid to get hit,

at Claython.

Reading his posts anymore reminds me of someone so desperately trying to fit in. He's trying to fit into the pessimistic crowd so much but it's an utter and epic fail.

milkman · 12-19-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

You misunderstand. When I said in my initial post that he's shown he can be a game manager, I was saying that he has proven he can be our QB.

What I don't know is if he can be anything more than a game manager. Because he hasn't been put into that situation yet.

Lenny Dawson was a game manager.

Troy Aikman was a game manager.

Terry Bradshaw was a game manager.

Bart Starr was the very epitome of game manager.

But they were also franchise QBs.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-19-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson gave their defenses chances to win the SB.

SO they are your definition of Franchise Qb? LOL....

Fail

**dirk digler** · 12-19-2010, 04:04 PM

Why are certain idiots complaining about his performance after coming off a major surgery anyway? They Chiefs were damn lucky he could suit up let alone play fairly decent.

RedThat · 12-19-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The same thing it will take for the entire team to convince me they've really turned around: meaningful games against good competition.

It's not his/their fault they've played the schedule that they have - they don't have any control over who lines up against them - but the fact remains that I have to see them do it against quality teams before I'm really convinced. I'm just not going to be sold before that point.

Maybe we'll see that in January. Maybe we'll see it in 2011. We're not going to see it in December. And that's not his fault or the team's fault, obviously.

Okay you got some good points. I will give you credit. And the Chiefs hardly played some good competition this year ala Indy, Jacksonville. Cassel didn't win us those games, but he didn't lose them either.

Time will tell. We may or may not get to see him perform in the playoffs? Hopefully this team makes it.

Quesadilla Joe · 12-19-2010, 04:06 PM

So is Chiefsplanet happy to have Cassel for the next 5 years now? Serious question.

|Zach| · 12-19-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

So is Chiefsplanet happy to have Cassel for the next 5 years now? Serious question.

**** you. You are a quitter.

Just Passin' By · 12-19-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

I think it's about 10-12 guys. Which just goes to show I don't have some unrealistic standard for Cassel.

You're a ****ing idiot.

RedThat · 12-19-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

What? You're saying Cassel is never going to be at the level of Matt Ryan?

haha very funny. way to twist it claythan

-King- · 12-19-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This is my response to this thread.

Yep, you can see the team get excited around him. I think he's a guy that teammates want to win with. He's really turned into a leader.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-19-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

So is Chiefsplanet happy to have Cassel for the next 5 years now? Serious question.

I am...I mean if he stays injury free I think it will give us stability at the QB spot, and let us improve the rest of the team.....Could be worse things....

siberian khatru · 12-19-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

**** you. You are a quitter.

12-19-2010, 03:44 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I think its time for the Cassel doubters to eat their crow The kid deserves some respect. After todays game Im starting to believe in the guy as our quarterback. He just displayed a true testament of toughness out there and leadership. To some people I understand its about him leading us to the playoffs and winning the superbowl in order for them to be satisfied...yada yada yada Im not going to go by that mindset at all. I look at this game and I see the way he played and it tells me a lot about his character. We should be proud. We got a pretty good quarterback folks. That 2nd round pick we gave up was well worth it. I think composure, toughness, and leadership are key attributes for a quarterback. Cassel has those qualities and I also love the fact that he plays with passion too. However, I believe the number one attribute as a quarterback is the ability to respond under pressure. So now I don't want to jump the gun here and say he has that capability, but I will say, after coming back from an appendectomy and performing the way he did, is a great sign and a step in the direction towards performing well under pressure. So far so good Matt. Keep up the good work you sure as heck got my support.
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RINGLEADER In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Confusion, USA Casino cash: $8610503	I'll eat up -- he's shown me enough. But I think he remains a work in progress. Put another way, though, if he was a QBOTF draft pick I'd be pleased at where he's at. Now if we could only get him receivers who can catch the damn ball...
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Lonewolf Ed Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Olathe, KS Casino cash: $10606233	Cassel could have played a bit timidly after having surgery, but he didn't. He has guts, no doubt, and I am thinking his guts might be right up there with Deberg. He ran for a first down and should have had another. Maybe it's just me, but 11 days after an apendectomy, if I was playing, running the ball myself would probably be the last thing I wanted to do. So hats off to Matt. Sus cajones son grandes, Cassel!
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dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $3234644	Why are certain idiots complaining about his performance after coming off a major surgery anyway? They Chiefs were damn lucky he could suit up let alone play fairly decent.
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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $4078675	So is Chiefsplanet happy to have Cassel for the next 5 years now? Serious question. __________________ “(Sean) Payton feels as strongly about Bo Nix as he did Mahomes.“ - Adam Schefter
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