Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 56

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

OKchiefs · 10-18-2018, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

If they didn't expect him back they would have just put him on IR. Don't see what's so funny about that
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They clearly expected him back already, otherwise he would have been put on IR. Obviously they have no clue when he can return.

Sassy Squatch · 10-18-2018, 03:11 PM

This is why Eric Berry needs to get off this team however we can do it. ****ing sick and tired of them using him as an excuse to stand pat and do nothing while we field one of the worst defenses in NFL history. Last year when it was clear Sutton had lost the plot. This year when our defense desperately needs all the help it can get and we have an extra 2nd.

Hammock Parties · 10-18-2018, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

This is why Eric Berry needs to get off this team however we can do it. ****ing sick and tired of them using him as an excuse to stand pat and do nothing while we field one of the worst defenses in NFL history. Last year when it was clear Sutton had lost the plot. This year when our defense desperately needs all the help it can get and we have an extra 2nd.

BERRY.

IS.

COMING.

BACK.

And you will cry tears of joy.

Marcellus · 10-18-2018, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

They clearly expected him back already, otherwise he would have been put on IR. Obviously they have no clue when he can return.

I know right, I bet they haven't talked to him or been involved in his rehab at all.

Sassy Squatch · 10-18-2018, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

BERRY.

IS.

COMING.

BACK.

And you will cry tears of joy.

No. I'll be throwing my hands up asking where the **** have you been?

NJChiefsFan · 10-18-2018, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Berry and Sorenson returning should make this defense good enough IMO

That plus a B level trade or higher would get me very excited. Having Berry, Houston, Sorenson, and someone else in that game versus the pats would have been nice.

mcaj22 · 10-18-2018, 03:23 PM

you know your defense really stinks when you consider Sorenson an upgrade, who is also not even good.

jjjayb · 10-18-2018, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

BERRY.

IS.

COMING.

BACK.

And you will cry tears of joy.

Great. And when he does come back how long before the injury is re-aggravated and he has to sit again?

Hammock Parties · 10-18-2018, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb

Great. And when he does come back how long before the injury is re-aggravated and he has to sit again?

We only need him for three games.

He will limp to the podium and the tears will stream down our faces.

NJChiefsFan · 10-18-2018, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22

you know your defense really stinks when you consider Sorenson an upgrade, who is also not even good.

Yes, although he is competent in coverage.

staylor26 · 10-18-2018, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Yes, although he is competent in coverage.

And that’s all we really need.

It’s like some people don’t get that we don’t need the defense to be good. We just need it to be competent.

Imon Yourside · 10-18-2018, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22

you know your defense really stinks when you consider Sorenson an upgrade, who is also not even good.

I've been thinking this too, All I remember were people bitching about him play after play. Ya there were those couple times where he made a great play the crazy Interception and leaping over a blocker to sack a QB come to mind. Those are few and far between he seemed to be below average and it's sad we're looking forward to below average.

old_geezer · 10-18-2018, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

BERRY.

IS.

COMING.

BACK.

And you will cry tears of joy.

So is Jesus. No bets on which one is first.

OKchiefs · 10-18-2018, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I know right, I bet they haven't talked to him or been involved in his rehab at all.

What does that mean? Again, they expected him back by now. He likely won't play before week 8 or 9 at the earliest. If they thought he wouldn't be back until then they would have put him on IR. They keep saying he's day to day and numerous reporters have reported ETAs that have been wrong, likely from team sources. So I say again, the Chiefs have little idea on when to expect him back.

htismaqe · 10-18-2018, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

We only need him for three games.

He will limp to the podium and the tears will stream down our faces.

He isn't going to magically appear for the playoffs and actually contribute. He's going to have to play well before then.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1996899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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