Chiefs hire Daboll

[Urc Burry]

Per Adam Schefter twitter

[Messier]

You know, between Zorn, Saunders, and Daboll, I don't like all of the above really, and even though Saunders would be my favorite because he's nice and OC'd the Vermeil teams, I'm not too down or too psyched about any of the three. It's all about the talent. An OC can look brilliant if the players execute the gameplan.

[YayMike]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

No, he wasn't offered the job. My buddy sent me a message this morning that losing out on McDaniels really ****ed their plan. Daboll was the choice between Zorn and Saunders.

This is speculation on my part but they may try to bring Al in as WR coach.

Zorn may ask out.

Yeah that was my fear that we may lose Zorn. Thanks as always for the information.

[YayMike]

Originally Posted by Messier

You know, between Zorn, Saunders, and Daboll, I don't like all of the above really, and even though Saunders would be my favorite because he's nice and OC'd the Vermeil teams, I'm not too down or too psyched about any of the three. It's all about the talent. An OC can look brilliant if the QUARTERBACK canexecute the gameplan.

FYP :-D

[Simplicity]

What ever happened to his saying, "I came here to win games." I call BS on that one.

[YayMike]

The only good thing about this might mean that Orton would come back next year. However the only downside to THAT is that means we wont draft a QB in the first round. No way we keep Cassel and Orton.

I'm okay with taking a risk, and we all know that trading for Cassel was a risk, and it turned out to be terrible, but take another ****ing risk in the draft, and get us a ****ing QB that can take us deep in the playoffs and not continue to be the joke of a frachise that we are. I can only take one joke of a franchise at a time, and this time of year its Orioles time...

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by Simplicity

What ever happened to his saying, "I came here to win games." I call BS on that one.

he came to KC to prove Castle was the new Tom Brady and he'll be fired trying to prove it.

he really needs to check out CP, we could have set him straight three years ago.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

ya, i know.
but it's most likely true because it keeps Pioli's boy Castle as the starting QB.

I'm not so sure I'd make that assumption.

This guy, as an OC has had to work with Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, a rookie 3rd round Colt McCoy, Chad Henne, and Matt Moore.

If he has no head coahing ambitions, then he might be a "yes" man who blindly accepts Cassel as his QB here.

However, if he has any aspirations of advancing his career, he might well be the voice that calls for real competition at the QB position.

If he blindly accepts Cassel, then he almost certainly dooms his career to position coach obscurity after another failed OC stint.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

he came to KC to prove Castle was the new Tom Brady and he'll be fired trying to prove it.

he really needs to check out CP, we could have set him straight three years ago.

I was thinking it's gonna be Cassel again this year, but after listening to Pioli on the radio yesterday, I'm not so sure anymore. He sure left room to doubt.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by YayMike

Yeah that was my fear that we may lose Zorn. Thanks as always for the information.

Zorn's legend is a pure myth.

No QB on this roster improved under him last year.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by YayMike

The only good thing about this might mean that Orton would come back next year. However the only downside to THAT is that means we wont draft a QB in the first round. No way we keep Cassel and Orton.

I'm okay with taking a risk, and we all know that trading for Cassel was a risk, and it turned out to be terrible, but take another ****ing risk in the draft, and get us a ****ing QB that can take us deep in the playoffs and not continue to be the joke of a frachise that we are. I can only take one joke of a franchise at a time, and this time of year its Orioles time...

At this point I HOPE we bring back Orton.

-but-

Daboll was on the Pats staff when they drafted Cassel and is familiar with him. Cassel also understand the offense Daboll would be implementing.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm not so sure I'd make that assumption.

This guy, as an OC has had to work with Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, a rookie 3rd round Colt McCoy, Chad Henne, and Matt Moore.

If he has no head coahing ambitions, then he might be a "yes" man who blindly accepts Cassel as his QB here.

However, if he has any aspirations of advancing his career, he might well be the voice that calls for real competition at the QB position.

If he blindly accepts Cassel, then he almost certainly dooms his career to position coach obscurity after another failed OC stint.

and he didn't get a better QB to work with in KC,
i'd take all of the above QB's over Castle.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm not so sure I'd make that assumption.

This guy, as an OC has had to work with Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, a rookie 3rd round Colt McCoy, Chad Henne, and Matt Moore.

If he has no head coahing ambitions, then he might be a "yes" man who blindly accepts Cassel as his QB here.

However, if he has any aspirations of advancing his career, he might well be the voice that calls for real competition at the QB position.

If he blindly accepts Cassel, then he almost certainly dooms his career to position coach obscurity after another failed OC stint.

was anyone else offering him a job?

i am unaware of him having options...

[YayMike]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm not so sure I'd make that assumption.

This guy, as an OC has had to work with Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, a rookie 3rd round Colt McCoy, Chad Henne, and Matt Moore.

If he has no head coahing ambitions, then he might be a "yes" man who blindly accepts Cassel as his QB here.

However, if he has any aspirations of advancing his career, he might well be the voice that calls for real competition at the QB position.

If he blindly accepts Cassel, then he almost certainly dooms his career to position coach obscurity after another failed OC stint.

Right, and he is young enough that maybe they would groom him to eventually take over for Romeo. However, to do so would mean he may want a young QB going forward. Will Pioli allow that?

Although there is <0% chance it happens, the best way for a young OC to make an impression is cut Cassel, sign Orton, draft a QBOTF.

Reality: Cassel starts, and another season where we probably limp into the playoffs and get embarrassed again

[milkman]

Originally Posted by YayMike

The only good thing about this might mean that Orton would come back next year. However the only downside to THAT is that means we wont draft a QB in the first round. No way we keep Cassel and Orton.

I'm okay with taking a risk, and we all know that trading for Cassel was a risk, and it turned out to be terrible, but take another ****ing risk in the draft, and get us a ****ing QB that can take us deep in the playoffs and not continue to be the joke of a frachise that we are. I can only take one joke of a franchise at a time, and this time of year its Orioles time...

We won't be drafting a first round QB this year, unless Pioli can pull off a tradedown to take Tannehill where he feels he matches the value of the pick.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm not so sure I'd make that assumption.

This guy, as an OC has had to work with Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, a rookie 3rd round Colt McCoy, Chad Henne, and Matt Moore.

If he has no head coahing ambitions, then he might be a "yes" man who blindly accepts Cassel as his QB here.

However, if he has any aspirations of advancing his career, he might well be the voice that calls for real competition at the QB position.

If he blindly accepts Cassel, then he almost certainly dooms his career to position coach obscurity after another failed OC stint.

This is why I would like to know what his stance on Orton was when the Dolphins were making the push to trade with Denver last year. I think you could make a case that Moore is an equal if not better QB than Cassel... even though Henne was the Dolphins starter early last season.