Royals Guillen's antics -- Your take on them - Page 3

Silock · 07-06-2008, 06:17 AM

At first, I was willing to chalk it up to a guy disappointed with not winning. Now I just think he's a douchebag. He knew what he was signing up for when he signed with the Royals. Why be pissed about it all the time? **** him.

**DeezNutz** · 07-06-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea pretty much man, everyone thought Gordon was gonna be it.....looks like Longoria is that guy...

The simple difference in these 2 teams, the Rays made all their high picks count the Royals well they didn't. We got Luke Hochevar, when we could of had Longoria or Lincecum.

That's not really true. The Rays have done well of late, but they have been selecting high for a long time. They've had plenty of misses.

That said, a Longoria can go a long way toward making everyone forget.

The Royals organization is still pretty ****ed up, though. Anyone else see the pre-game comparision between Pena and Frank White? Wow. The Royals broadcast is usually a mouthpiece for the organization, and this comparison scared the hell out of me. Surely no one is this stupid.

Mecca · 07-06-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

That's not really true. The Rays have done well of late, but they have been selecting high for a long time. They've had plenty of misses.

That said, a Longoria can go a long way toward making everyone forget.

The Royals organization is still pretty ****ed up, though. Anyone else see the pre-game comparision between Pena and Frank White? Wow. The Royals broadcast is usually a mouthpiece for the organization, and this comparison scared the hell out of me. Surely no one is this stupid.

Who are their bad misses? Josh Hamilton? That one had nothing to do with his talent as we see now...

kcxiv · 07-06-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

IMO, you don't have to be an abrasive loudmouth to be a leader and inspire your teammates to win. There are countless examples of this in all team sports.

Nope, but there are some teams in sports that do have the loudmouth and win. Doing it the other way sure in the heck wasnt working for the Royals. Maybe its time for something different.

Sure-Oz · 07-06-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Who are their bad misses? Josh Hamilton? That one had nothing to do with his talent as we see now...

I'd say Delmon Young is pulling a gordon, hes pretty avg for Minn this year, but he still had 93 rbis last year, way more than gordon. Gordon probably will get 80 rbis and 20 hrs this year, but i expect a higher avg and plate disciplne. He still doesn't take the ball the other way and strikes out alot.

Mecca · 07-06-2008, 12:52 PM

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I'd say Delmon Young is pulling a gordon, hes pretty avg for Minn this year, but he still had 93 rbis last year, way more than gordon. Gordon probably will get 80 rbis and 20 hrs this year, but i expect a higher avg and plate disciplne. He still doesn't take the ball the other way and strikes out alot.

Considering they flipped him into Matt Garza we'll judge that pick as Garza now.

**DaKCMan AP** · 07-06-2008, 12:56 PM

Navarro and Kazmir just announced as All-Stars. Longoria could be voted in by fans.

Mecca · 07-06-2008, 12:59 PM

All I know about the Rays is this.....Kazmir, Garza, Shields.......they keep those guys with David Price and Jeff Nieman coming they could have an absolutely sick rotation.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-06-2008, 01:00 PM

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All I know about the Rays is this.....Kazmir, Garza, Shields.......they keep those guys with David Price and Jeff Nieman coming they could have an absolutely sick rotation.

Damn...that would be one hell of a rotation.

Sure-Oz · 07-06-2008, 01:02 PM

I'm really glad we drafted hochaver over Lincecum and Longoria....

Mecca · 07-06-2008, 01:03 PM

That doesn't even count Reid Brignac the #1 prospect in their organization who's a SS and the middle infielder they just drafted #1....that team could literally bet set to be good for a long time if they can keep it together.

Mecca · 07-06-2008, 01:03 PM

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I'm really glad we drafted hochaver over Lincecum and Longoria....

Tim Lincecum only leads the league in K's.....I just remember everyone saying he'd hurt his arm and all that, yea great decision there Royals.

**DeezNutz** · 07-06-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Who are their bad misses? Josh Hamilton? That one had nothing to do with his talent as we see now...

Here are the Rays' first round selections. You can't give them a pass on Hamilton because he didn't produce for them, so he's a major disappointment. Since we don't know about Price, yet, they've had two really good players in 9 years. Well, I guess that's better than the Royals, and if Longoria becomes a star, that makes up for a lot.

'99: Josh Hamilton
'00: Rocco Baldelli
'01: Dewon Brazelton
'02: Upton
'03: Delmon Young
'04: Jeff Niemann
'05: Wade Townsend
'06: Longoria
'07: David Price

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-06-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That doesn't even count Reid Brignac the #1 prospect in their organization who's a SS and the middle infielder they just drafted #1....that team could literally bet set to be good for a long time if they can keep it together.

Well I guess it all depends how much money they are willing to spend to get all those young guys locked up long term. Will they trade guys away like Florida or lock em up?

**DeezNutz** · 07-06-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Well I guess it all depends how much money they are willing to spend to get all those young guys locked up long term. Will they trade guys away like Florida or lock em up?

They locked Longoria up long term after he played about 5 minutes this season...

Mecca · 07-06-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Here are the Rays' first round selections. You can't give them a pass on Hamilton because he didn't produce for them, so he's a major disappointment. Since we don't know about Price, yet, they've had two really good players in 9 years. Well, I guess that's better than the Royals, and if Longoria becomes a star, that makes up for a lot.

'99: Josh Hamilton
'00: Rocco Baldelli
'01: Dewon Brazelton
'02: Upton
'03: Delmon Young
'04: Jeff Niemann
'05: Wade Townsend
'06: Longoria
'07: David Price

02 and up they're fine.....Young was spun in a good trade for them, we know nothing of Nieman or Townsend at this time.

The thing that makes them is pulling a guy like Carl Crawford later..they've generally drafted pretty well when you look at what they have and what they have coming.

07-06-2008, 06:17 AM
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2517050	All I know about the Rays is this.....Kazmir, Garza, Shields.......they keep those guys with David Price and Jeff Nieman coming they could have an absolutely sick rotation.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2517050	That doesn't even count Reid Brignac the #1 prospect in their organization who's a SS and the middle infielder they just drafted #1....that team could literally bet set to be good for a long time if they can keep it together.
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