I Predict The 2013 QB's To Be

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by jd1020

If Stanzi isn't at least a #2 in 2013 then there is no point in the keeping him around.

Depends on the situation. If you bring in Campbell or another vet to help along Geno/rookie QB, he'd pretty much be the #3 by default. Even if the coaches liked his potential. If they didn't feel comfortable with him as the #2 in 2014 after a year under their tutelage, then there would be no reason to keep him.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Depends on the situation. If you bring in Campbell or another vet to help along Geno/rookie QB, he'd pretty much be the #3 by default. Even if the coaches liked his potential. If they didn't feel comfortable with him as the #2 in 2014 after a year under their tutelage, then there would be no reason to keep him.

Not imo. How much practice is a #3 QB getting during the season?

If he can't make it to #2 in his 3rd season it's time for him to go.

Washington has 2 rookies as their top 2 QBs.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Not imo. How much Practice is a #3 QB getting during the season?

If he can't make it to #2 in his 3rd season it's time for him to go.

Washington has 2 rookies as their top 2 QBs.

My point exactly. How can you equate what Stanzi has been through the last two years to what Cousins or even Foles has in their time in the NFL?

Stanzi looked damned good coming in as a rookie, with no offseason, and less than zero blocking. The guy truly made chicken salad out of chicken shit. Problem was, he couldn't throw it and catch it too.

Then, in comes the worst coaching staff in KC football history, new offense, spoon feeding the starter, and a backup who had played in the system for a year already. Meanwhile, Stanzi gets neglected and regresses. But somehow that's his fault.

EVERY QB ON THIS ROSTER REGRESSED THIS YEAR!

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Hey guys let's draft a QB number one overall but let's also make sure we spend lots of time working with a fringe NFL third stringer, drafted by one of the worst GMs, who did nothing overly impressive while in college!

That's a dumb way of looking at it. Sorry.

The coaching staffs job is to develop the entire roster, not just the starting unit.

[BossChief]

The browns defense is far from weak...we will see what Stanzi is truly made of with Reid calling the shots.

[KChiefs1]

Reid loves the OL. Luke Joeckel wii be #1.
The QB will be taken in Round 2. Tyler Bray wii be the pick.

[Pin Head]

Reid is going to have his hands fulll. This 2-14 team needs A LOT of work.

[RealSNR]

Yes, I know that Tom Izzo coaches basketball. I fixed it.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That's a dumb way of looking at it. Sorry.

The coaching staffs job is to develop the entire roster, not just the starting unit.

True. But Stanzi doesn't need to be a priority in any way, shape, or form. If he is here fine. If not who cares. I do not want Reid coming in here thinking he has something to work with in Stanzi, thus passing up on a first overall pick QB, all because Stanzi has not yet gotten to continue proving his suckage on Sundays.

Some people are acting like it is some travesty that Stanzi hasn't gotten a fair shake when in reality, being Pioli's pick, if he was good even in the slightest he would have been playing in an attempt to save Pioli's job.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Reid loves the OL. Luke Joeckel wii be #1.
The QB will be taken in Round 2. Tyler Bray wii be the pick.

why would he take a left tackle instead of just convincing Albert to stay?

Albert + Geno Smith >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just Joeckel.

If Reid lets Albert walk and passes on Geno (or another QB of his choosing) in favor of Drafting Joeckel...I'll eat a ghost chile.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

First, I'm not a Stanzi or Cousins Whisperer. I'm not.

I thought that Stanzi was an emotionally fragile bitch coming out. Unfair? Almost certainly. But this view was solidified in my mind when he checked down, at home, trailing, with time expiring and no TOs against Wisconsin (I believe).

Beautiful drive to this point. Ended by idiocy on the part of the QB. Now, one could argue that the back should have gotten out of bounds, blah, blah, blah. And maybe this is true. But the fact is that the trigger man put his teammate in a terrible place.

During the great Cassel wars of '10, I had and have no sympathy for idiocy from the QB position.

From my limited view, Cousins didn't hit these depths. Again, I didn't watch him play against NE Kansas City Tech, so I might be mistaken.

Too much stake in one play? Absolutely. Completely. But I never saw enough, even after this, to change my mind, even when Iowa bested my team in the bowl game later that season.

the trigger man put his back in position to get out of bounds to let Iowa line up for a 51 yard field goal with his team down 1 point.

Even milkman said he had no problem with the decision...he also said he thought Stanzi had "real potential" and at one time said parts of Stanzis game reminded him of a young Terry Bradshaw.

I wish the best for the kid for multiple reasons and hope he does well.

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

True. But Stanzi doesn't need to be a priority in any way, shape, or form. If he is here fine. If not who cares. I do not want Reid coming in here thinking he has something to work with in Stanzi, thus passing up on a first overall pick QB, all because Stanzi has not yet gotten to continue proving his suckage on Sundays.

Some people are acting like it is some travesty that Stanzi hasn't gotten a fair shake when in reality, being Pioli's pick, if he was good even in the slightest he would have been playing in an attempt to save Pioli's job.

There is NOTHING that Stanzi has ever done to make ANYONE think he is a talent that would prohibit the selection of a at superior player with the top pick in an ensuing draft.

Just the proposed possibility of such is laughable.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

True. But Stanzi doesn't need to be a priority . in any way, shape, or form. If he is here fine. If not who cares. dmaybe this draft foo not want TO Reid coming in here thinking he has something to work with in Stanzi, thus passing up on a first overall pick QB, all because Stanzi has not yet gotten to continue proving his suckage on Sundays.

Some people are acting like it is some travesty that Stanzi hasn't gotten a fair shake when in reality, being Pioli's pick, if he was good even in the slightest he would have been playing in an attempt to save Pioli's job.

First of all. You have to be the dumbest mother****er even to post on this board if you think ANYONE on this forum would pass up on a QB in this draft for Stanzi. It is GENO #1 or bust.

Second, if you think Stanzi got any kind of fair shake you're a dumbass. Cassel is Pioli 63 million dollar baby, and Quinn is Romeo's first round hand picked QB. Once Clark took Pioli's power over the roster away, it was Quinn. Period.

[BossChief]

Crennel traded up using two second rounders and a first to take Quinn iirc. Pioli traded a very high second rounder for Cassel and gave him a carbon copy of Aaron Rodgers contract (which is a clear sign that is how he saw Cassels talent level at the time )

Quinn and Cassel.

These were the chosen quarterbacks of these jackasses...I'm probably wrong about Stanzi and he will get cut...but if he doesn't, I like his chances.

[DeezNutz]

So Haley was allowed to play Palko to rub it in Pioli's face, but Stanzi was off-limits why? Logical inconsistency here if we're to disregard everything associated with the past season.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

So Haley was allowed to play Palko to rub it in Pioli's face, but Stanzi was off-limits why? Logical inconsistency here if we're to disregard everything associated with the past season.

Why was Hudson kept off the field in favor of Lilja as a rookie, even when he vastly outplayed him when he filled for an injury?
Same with Asamoah as a rookie when Lilja started at rg over him?
Why was Tom Brady inactive his rookie year?

Because of the failed farce that was just ushered out of town...that's why.

How many times did Vinny Testaverde get brought back for Parcells?

The veteran plays and the kid sits...that's their way.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Why was Hudson kept off the field in favor of Lilja as a rookie, even when he vastly outplayed him when he filled for an injury?
Same with Asamoah as a rookie when Lilja started at rg over him?
Why was Tom Brady inactive his rookie year?

Because of the failed farce that was just ushered out of town...that's why.

How many times did Vinny Testaverde get brought back for Parcells?

The veteran plays and the kid sits...that's their way.

Are you really going to assert that Palko had earned "vet status" with any of the coaches? The Palko of 6 total pass attempts in the regular season, prior to '11? OK.

Come on, brah. This is a ridiculous stretch.