Sell me on Alex smith

[Molitoth]

This thread backfired on me...
**** it.

[L.A. Chieffan]

If you have Smith you can afford to take a guy like Bray or maybe somebody else in the third or fourth that needs more seasoning. We probably wouldn't have to give up our first overall for him so we could draft Star or Teo and kill two birds with one shot.

Have I sold you yet?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

If you have Smith you can afford to take a guy like Bray or maybe somebody else in the third or fourth that needs more seasoning. We probably wouldn't have to give up our first overall for him so we could draft Star or Teo and kill two birds with one shot.

Have I sold you yet?

1) Tyler Bray won't last until the 3rd or 4th round. Some (soon to be sorry) team is going to spend a 1st or 2nd rounder on him.
2) By trading for Smith, you give up at least a 2nd or 3rd round pick (possibly both) and give up the opportunity to snag a quality player who is cheaper and younger.
3) The gap between Star Lutuli and Jon Hankins, Sheldon Richardson, Shariff Floyd, John Jenkins, Jesse Williams is no bigger than the gap between Geno Smith and Glennon, Barkley, etc. In fact, it's probably smaller.
4) Manti Te'o plays a non-impact position, is a below-average NFL athlete, and provides very little OVER the ILBs available in rounds 2-4.
5) Alex Smith just isn't that good. (Look at QB rating, and the way his coach regards him).

So, no, I am not sold.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

1) Tyler Bray won't last until the 3rd or 4th round. Some (soon to be sorry) team is going to spend a 1st or 2nd rounder on him.
2) By trading for Smith, you give up at least a 2nd or 3rd round pick (possibly both) and give up the opportunity to snag a quality player who is cheaper and younger.
3) The gap between Star Lutuli and Jon Hankins, Sheldon Richardson, Shariff Floyd, John Jenkins, Jesse Williams is no bigger than the gap between Geno Smith and Glennon, Barkley, etc. In fact, it's probably smaller.
4) Manti Te'o plays a non-impact position, is a below-average NFL athlete, and provides very little OVER the ILBs available in rounds 2-4.
5) Alex Smith just isn't that good. (Look at QB rating, and the way his coach regards him).

So, no, I am not sold.

Its always fun to be able to go back and see what craziness some people say.

Id say that the talent gap between Manuel, Glennon and the rest of the sorry ass qbs is HUGE.

Your Teo prediction was spot on.

Typically, your evaluation of Alex Smith. TURRIBLE.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

1) Tyler Bray won't last until the 3rd or 4th round. Some (soon to be sorry) team is going to spend a 1st or 2nd rounder on him.
2)By trading for Smith, you give up at least a 2nd or 3rd round pick (possibly both) and give up the opportunity to snag a quality player who is cheaper and younger.
3) The gap between Star Lutuli and Jon Hankins, Sheldon Richardson, Shariff Floyd, John Jenkins, Jesse Williams is no bigger than the gap between Geno Smith and Glennon, Barkley, etc. In fact, it's probably smaller.
4) Manti Te'o plays a non-impact position, is a below-average NFL athlete, and provides very little OVER the ILBs available in rounds 2-4.
5) Alex Smith just isn't that good. (Look at QB rating, and the way his coach regards him).

So, no, I am not sold.

whelp, you got Bray as an UDFA so there's that! And yes, that is a huge steal.

[HolyHat]

Forget QBr, forget that he's a good teammate, forget that he's coachable.

Do you want Alex Smith as your QB on a game deciding drive? Can he win you a game?

The answer is no, he can not.

[Thig Lyfe]

Originally Posted by @KCsporting

Forget QBr, forget that he's a good teammate, forget that he's coachable.

Do you want Alex Smith as your QB on a game deciding drive? Can he win you a game?

The answer is no, he can not.

Technically he did just that against the Saints in the playoffs last year. But usually, no, you wouldn't want him in there on a game deciding drive.

[Austin Ed]

We also know he looks good in red (Niners & Utes)

[HolyHat]

Here is a fun fact. Matt Cassel for his career has a QBr of 80.4, Alex Smith for his career...79.1

Still wanna read into QBr stats?

[Austin Ed]

Originally Posted by @KCsporting

Here is a fun fact. Matt Cassel for his career has a QBr of 80.4, Alex Smith for his career...79.1

Still wanna read into QBr stats?

Smith wasn't any good until last year. He has turned it around the last two years. That explains his relatively low career QBR. He is on the upswing Cassell had the good year with NE and then 2010. That explains his relatively high career QPR. Cassell is headed the other direction. However, you are ignoring (probably intentionally) the other point that some others and I are making. We are calling your first-round pick and raising you Smith. We think the QB position is so important that the Chiefs should attack the problem both ways. Get rid of Cassell and Quinn and replace them with Smith and the draft pick. Keep Stanzi around for laughs.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by Austin Ed

Smith wasn't any good until last year. He has turned it around the last two years. That explains his relatively low career QBR. He is on the upswing Cassell had the good year with NE and then 2010. That explains his relatively high career QPR. Cassell is headed the other direction. However, you are ignoring (probably intentionally) the other point that some others and I are making. We are calling your first-round pick and raising you Smith. We think the QB position is so important that the Chiefs should attack the problem both ways. Get rid of Cassell and Quinn and replace them with Smith and the draft pick. Keep Stanzi around for laughs.

I am pretty sure five years from now Stanzi will be in the same position as this guy.

[HolyHat]

Originally Posted by qbsacker93

I am pretty sure five years from now Stanzi will be in the same position as this guy.

Don't disrespect Millton like that. Millton is a very succesful office man, Stanzi could never live up to that.

[Molitoth]

Keep Stanzi around for laughs.

I'd rather have Alex Tanney around for laughs. The dude is extremely accurate. Maybe if he can sit around and learn a bit he could amount to something.

[the Talking Can]

thread gold

[Mav]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

thread gold

I agree. I wish there was more......