Denver - LMAO John Fox is a moron

[Chiefnj2]

Didn't Manning come out and say that he audibled to a run on the 3rd and 7 play?

Maybe Manning and his coaches were aware that his arm was completely shot and that influenced the playcalling and approach to the game down the stretch.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Didn't Manning come out and say that he audibled to a run on the 3rd and 7 play?

Maybe Manning and his coaches were aware that his arm was completely shot and that influenced the playcalling and approach to the game down the stretch.

That still doesn't excuse wasting those two timeouts at the game. Hell, he did the same exact thing at the end of the first half with all three timeouts. Fox dun goofed and the consequences will never be the same.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Crush

That still doesn't excuse wasting those two timeouts at the game. Hell, he did the same exact thing at the end of the first half with all three timeouts. Fox dun goofed and the consequences will never be the same.

No one is arguing about those plays though. We're all talking about the 3rd and 7 play.
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[Crush]

Originally Posted by -King-

No one is arguing about those plays though. We're all talking about the 3rd and 7 play.
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Even though Fox shouldn't be blamed for the 3rd and 7 play, he should still blamed for the loss. That is all I am saying.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Crush

Even though Fox shouldn't be blamed for the 3rd and 7 play, he should still blamed for the loss. That is all I am saying.

Fox is known to be ultraconservative and he has been questioned as a head coach. No doubt. But, a QB like Manning is usually given tons of leeway and authority regarding what to do and when to do it. I can't help but think the general mismanagement and bad playcalling had something to do with Manning's arm not being close to 100%.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Fox is known to be ultraconservative and he has been questioned as a head coach. No doubt. But, a QB like Manning is usually given tons of leeway and authority regarding what to do and when to do it. I can't help but think the general mismanagement and bad playcalling had something to do with Manning's arm not being close to 100%.

I could see that. If that is the case, then the Donks are more ****ed than they realize.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Crush

Even though Fox shouldn't be blamed for the 3rd and 7 play, he should still blamed for the loss. That is all I am saying.

He didn't throw the game losing INT. Yeah his decisions contributed to the loss but hes not the one who threw one of the stupidest passes a QB can throw. They teach QBs not to throw across their bodies in middle school. No reason a hall of fame QB should have ever done that. That pick was the reason the Ravens barely had to move go kick the game winning FG.

The blame game for the loss goes 1) Manning 2) R.Moore 3) Fox.
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[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Crush

Even though Fox shouldn't be blamed for the 3rd and 7 play, he should still blamed for the loss. That is all I am saying.

Manning calls his own plays with McCoy as sidebar consultant IMO. That 3rd and 7 playcall and then taking a knee has Fox written all over it because I don't think Peyton would ever do that.

[Chiefshrink]

Presser with Fox/Elway will be in 30 min and it will be interesting to see how they spin away who was making the actual calls. But Manning to some degree has already fallen on the sword for Fox saying he audibled out of that 3rd and 7 to a run which doesn't add up because you don't see the evidence of an audible.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Didn't Manning come out and say that he audibled to a run on the 3rd and 7 play?

Maybe Manning and his coaches were aware that his arm was completely shot and that influenced the playcalling and approach to the game down the stretch.

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!

They didn't throw deep hardly at all in the second half. Was it Baltimore adjustments, or Peyton's arm wilting?