Chiefs Petro a& Lenny "Don't blame the offense" - Page 12

**petegz28** · 12-22-2008, 12:38 PM

On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss.

Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games".

Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead.

Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off.

Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 02:32 PM

Oh for the love of christ.

**dirk digler** · 12-22-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Tom Brady won those Super Bowls because he was clutch?! Holy christ how hard is it to drive 20 yards into field goal range and watch Vinatieri do his thing?

It's sickening that a QB can be labeled a choker when the rest of his team lets him down...

Yes Tom Brady is clutch and is a sure-fire 1st ballot HOF.

Yet you are on here claiming Carson Palmer sucks when the rest of his team lets him down...specifically the shitty D they have had the last 5 years.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Oh for the love of christ.

Leinart riding pine on a mediocre Cardinals team...

Palmer playing so poorly the team blamed it on a fake injury and benched him...

and Matt Cassell...backup to both...plays pro bowl caliber football and leads the Patriots to a potential 11 win season...

looks like USC was playing the wrong guy

**Bowser** · 12-22-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

who would have thought out of Palmer, Leinart and Cassell Cassell would have turned out the best?

Now you're just trying to piss him off.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yes Tom Brady is clutch and is a sure-fire 1st ballot HOF.

Yet you are on here claiming Carson Palmer sucks when the rest of his team lets him down...specifically the shitty D they have had the last 5 years.

the rest of his team doesn't turn the ball over 20-25 times a season...

If Tony Romo is a choker...at least he puts himself in position to choke...Palmer doesn't even sniff the playoffs...real great for a 'franchise' QB.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Now you're just trying to piss him off.

Yeah I know.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Leinart riding pine on a mediocre Cardinals team...

Palmer playing so poorly the team blamed it on a fake injury and benched him...

and Matt Cassell...backup to both...plays pro bowl caliber football and leads the Patriots to a potential 11 win season...

looks like USC was playing the wrong guy

Those back to back national titles really sucked....

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Those back to back national titles really sucked....

Ken Dorsey was 39-2 in college.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Ken Dorsey was 39-2 in college.

Which means in college they started the right guy......I know you're just trying to annoy me here.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Which means in college they started the right guy......I know you're just trying to annoy me here.

Maybe USC had it right in college...Leinart and Palmer were good college QB's...just not good NFL QB's.

**dirk digler** · 12-22-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

the rest of his team doesn't turn the ball over 20-25 times a season...

If Tony Romo is a choker...at least he puts himself in position to choke...Palmer doesn't even sniff the playoffs...real great for a 'franchise' QB.

No they give up an ungodly amount of points therefore putting pressure on the QB and the offense to keep up.

We have seen first hand how that turns out.

Listen I don't know if Palmer is washed up and I am pretty sure Romo will start winning playoff games but when you make these wild statements you come off looking silly.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

No they give up an ungodly amount of points therefore putting pressure on the QB and the offense to keep up.

We have seen first hand how that turns out.

Listen I don't know if Palmer is washed up and I am pretty sure Romo will start winning playoff games but when you make these wild statements you come off looking silly.

well I'll look pretty smart next year when Palmer continues to suck.

**dirk digler** · 12-22-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

well I'll look pretty smart next year when Palmer continues to suck.

or you will look pretty dumb when he doesn't

just saying...

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-22-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

the rest of his team doesn't turn the ball over 20-25 times a season...

If Tony Romo is a choker...at least he puts himself in position to choke...Palmer doesn't even sniff the playoffs...real great for a 'franchise' QB.

If Romo played for the Bengals, they'd have 2 wins this year.

If a healthy Carson Palmer played for the Cowboys, they'd have at least 12.

**Bowser** · 12-22-2008, 02:48 PM

And Dane shows up with kindling for the fire.

12-22-2008, 12:38 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2794127	Petro a& Lenny "Don't blame the offense" On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss. Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games". Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead. Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off. Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.
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