Chiefs Petro a& Lenny "Don't blame the offense" - Page 7

**petegz28** · 12-22-2008, 12:38 PM

On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss.

Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games".

Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead.

Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off.

Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.

**SAUTO** · 12-22-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Jasons argument basically says Tyler Thigpen blows ****in balls you should hate him with this argument because as a starter he is now 1-9.

yep AND he's only started 10 games how long has palmer been in the league?

AND GREAT QB"S WIN NO MATTER WHAT RIGHT GUYS? i'm using YOUR arguments against thigpen and using YOUR CRITERIA palmer isnt good

CoMoChief · 12-22-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

watch the Colts defense play a game this year and then tell me who's responsible for them being in the playoffs...

A healthy Palmer on the Colts and I'd say they'd have 3 or 4 wins this year.

In Palmers situation, its not him thats the problem.

Clearly Peyton has more value to his team than anyone else in the league.

Thats not what Im arguing though.

and Palmer would have more than just 3-4 wins if he played on the COlts.

thats just one of your many reeruned statements you've made.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:28 PM

Some of this fan base really is reeruned.

ChiefsCountry · 12-22-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

ok buddy how do YOU want to compare QBs? i guarantee palmer isnt top5 in any way you can measure by stats AND thats with 2 yes 2 all pro recievers(who would be on most any team)

Use QB rating go ahead - it will show that Elvis Grbac is the same or better than John Elway.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Peyton clearly has more talent around him than Palmer does. Its not even close.

Marvin lost a step but still is one of the better WRs in the NFL

Clark is better than any TE the Bengals ever had in the history if their existence.

Wayne is better than both Ocho Cinco and Housh.

Not to mention Manning almost NEVER gets sacked.

All I ask is to watch a Colts game.

Manning almost never gets sacked. Correct. Why? BECAUSE HE FEELS THE ****ING PRESSURE AND GETS RID OF THE BALL...WATCH A GOD DAMN GAME. This might be his most amazing talent. He is amazing at waiting until the last split second to get rid of the ball...if he does take a sack it's because a lineman flat out missed an assignment...plain and simple.

Wayne is better than CJ and Housh? Why do you say that? Wayne is great...but he drops a lot of passes and he does nothing that tells me he's better than those two...all three are #1 WR's...

Clark is totally overrated. He's a good TE...he catches a lot of passes...but he does nothing that is special. I watch every Colts game...he's not even CLOSE to Tony Gonzalez caliber...not even remotely close.

Peyton Manning makes the players around him an infinite amount of times better.

Carson Palmer makes NO ONE better.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:31 PM

On Chiefsplanet Carson Palmer sucks and Troy Aikman was just a game manager.....ponder that.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Some of this fan base really is reeruned.

This is what you always come back to...

Get off your high horse, I bet you still live with your parents, too.

I can't wait until Palmer sucks again next year. It is going to be great.

**Bowser** · 12-22-2008, 01:32 PM

Hey, wait a minute. This thread is about how god awful the Chiefs defense is. Damn you people with your gnat sized attention spans.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Hey, wait a minute. This thread is about how god awful the Chiefs defense is. Damn you people with your gnat sized attention spans.

Why is it that when anyone says something wildly reeruned it usually goes back to Hootie?

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:34 PM

clearly no one has watched a Colts game this year...CoMo just claimed Harrison is still an elite receiver...I can't count on 25 fingers how many times Harrison was wide open for a TD pass this year and he couldn't catch up to a Manning pass...or they were just slightly off...you're telling me this is Manning over Harrison? No way...how about the pass a few weeks ago where Harrison was running for a TD, 10 yards in front of everyone...and was chased down at the 2 by a strong safety?

The dude is slower than hell now and is nothing but another big name with little game...he is going to be cut this offseason.

Watching the Colts...wow. If you think Cassell and the 10-5 Patriots is some sort of a story the fact the Colts are 11-4 with this roster and the same philosophy as Herm ****ing Edwards you'd really appreciate what Peyton has done this year...the Colts are easily one of the least talented teams that will be in the playoffs except for one thing...Peyton Manning.

The Colts defense is HORRENDOUS.

CoMoChief · 12-22-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Peyton Manning makes the players around him an infinite amount of times better.

Carson Palmer makes NO ONE better.

You act as if no one ever watches the Colts. they're on TV almost every week you homo.

I guess Palmer doesn't make anyone better.......

hmmmm I guess thats why Chad Johnson made the pro bowl this season...........oh wait.......

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Why is it that when anyone says something wildly reeruned it usually goes back to Hootie?

you're the one that said you'd trade the Chiefs entire roster for an injury prone, immobile QB that leads his team to 8-8 every year...

aren't you a non-true fan who doesn't want to see mediocrity anymore?

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***Here comes the 'OMG THE FAN BASE IS reerunED!!!!!' mecca post***

Get a life, douche bag. Do you have a job yet?

CoMoChief · 12-22-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

clearly no one has watched a Colts game this year...CoMo just claimed Harrison is still an elite receiver...I can't count on 25 fingers how many times Harrison was wide open for a TD pass this year and he couldn't catch up to a Manning pass...or they were just slightly off...you're telling me this is Manning over Harrison? No way...how about the pass a few weeks ago where Harrison was running for a TD, 10 yards in front of everyone...and was chased down at the 2 by a strong safety?

The dude is slower than hell now and is nothing but another big name with little game...he is going to be cut this offseason.

Watching the Colts...wow. If you think Cassell and the 10-5 Patriots is some sort of a story the fact the Colts are 11-4 with this roster and the same philosophy as Herm ****ing Edwards you'd really appreciate what Peyton has done this year...the Colts are easily one of the least talented teams that will be in the playoffs except for one thing...Peyton Manning.

The Colts defense is HORRENDOUS.

When did I say Harrison was an elite WR? I said he's lost a step but still is one of the better ones out there.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

You act as if no one ever watches the Colts. they're on TV almost every week you homo.

I guess Palmer doesn't make anyone better.......

hmmmm I guess thats why Chad Johnson made the pro bowl this season...........oh wait.......

Because when Palmer was playing at the beginning of the season Chad Johnson caught how many TD passes? Oh wait...zero. He didn't start catching passes at all until Ryan Fitzpatrick, the worst QB of all time, took over for THE ELITE CARSON PALMER.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

When did I say Harrison was an elite WR? I said he's lost a step but still is one of the better ones out there.

how is he one of the better ones out there? Because his name is Marvin Harrison?

12-22-2008, 12:38 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2804127	Petro a& Lenny "Don't blame the offense" On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss. Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games". Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead. Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off. Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	clearly no one has watched a Colts game this year...CoMo just claimed Harrison is still an elite receiver...I can't count on 25 fingers how many times Harrison was wide open for a TD pass this year and he couldn't catch up to a Manning pass...or they were just slightly off...you're telling me this is Manning over Harrison? No way...how about the pass a few weeks ago where Harrison was running for a TD, 10 yards in front of everyone...and was chased down at the 2 by a strong safety? The dude is slower than hell now and is nothing but another big name with little game...he is going to be cut this offseason. Watching the Colts...wow. If you think Cassell and the 10-5 Patriots is some sort of a story the fact the Colts are 11-4 with this roster and the same philosophy as Herm ****ing Edwards you'd really appreciate what Peyton has done this year...the Colts are easily one of the least talented teams that will be in the playoffs except for one thing...Peyton Manning. The Colts defense is HORRENDOUS.
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