Dirty Politics - 24 year old Drunk Driving "Breaking News" on Bush - Page 5

Chiefnj · 11-02-2000, 11:03 PM

I'm surprised none of our resident political types have started this, but its a slow night, so what the hell.

On the eve of the election, a Portland, Maine reporter broke the story that GW was arrested for drunk driving in 1976. This is, of course, the political equivalent of a brand new Ferrari for the liberal press, and they've got it red-lined already.

Thoughts on this:

1. Funny how this broke four days before the election. I'm sure the Gore camp had nothing to do with it... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]

2. IT WAS 24 YEARS AGO! It's not like the guy got crocked and plowed into a school bus last week.

3. The libs are painting this as a character issue, labeling GW a hypocrit for not disclosing this incident, yet railing on the moral indiscretions of Gore and Clinton. GW says he kept it quiet because he didn't want his kids to know about it. Hmm... it seems to me that the President of the United States lying under oath is a bit more damning that not disclosing that GW once got a DUI decades ago. Perhaps that's just me.

4. GW says he quit drinking 14 years ago.

5. Like the guy drives himself anywhere, anyway!

I hope the American public can see this for what it so obviously is - a timebomb Gore has known about, probably for months, that is dropped at the 11th hour in an attempt to salvage his mercifully-failing campaign. This is dirty politics at its worst. As a result of this, I support GW more strongly than ever now.

Cannibal · 11-03-2000, 12:18 PM

Boy a week ago most people were slamming Brian Griese for his DUI. It comes out that Bush did it and now it isn't a big deal. People want to hold Corey Dillon's past against him and use it as an excuse for KC not to sign him, but Bush's past indiscretions shouldn't be considered.

Clinton is a bad person and lacks moral convictions for having an affair, but yet the same standard doesn't apply to a presidential candidate who abused alcohol and cocaine.

I'm starting to see a trend here.

[This message has been edited by Chiefnj (edited 11-03-2000).]

Shootr · 11-03-2000, 12:19 PM

Look for Tom Connolly to be given an appointment in the Gore Administration if there is such a beast. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

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11-03-2000, 12:20 PM

Chiefnj: It's funny...after the previous two election cycles we were told this 'old' stuff didnt matter and that it was a witchhunt and dirty politics. Now it does matter?

You're right there is a trend here.

redshirt32 · 11-03-2000, 12:22 PM

Oh Clint and DD, yes I guess a DUI is so much more serious than a rape... My gosh, where have I been living?!

Bush's DUI was as a private citizen. Clinton's rape occurred while as an elected official representing the state of Arkansas...

There is a big difference here... You guys just don't want to see it...

11-03-2000, 12:23 PM

Donkey Drew: Do you remember this post?

[i]This is inexcusable behavior on Griese's behalf, but its amazing how the self righteous come out of the woodwork when a pro athlete shows a lapse in judgement. Let's not forget that Griese is still very young and very prone to the stupid mistakes that most young men make. He was probably one of 50 DUI arrests in the Denver metro area saturday night, and the only one to make the papers. [b]That doesn't make it right, but lets not confuse this sort of lack of judgement with a character issue.[/b][/i].

or this one?
[i]I was pointing out that this is a common mistake among the 20 something set, and that by itself, it isn't indicative of some sort of character problem.[/i]

Can you say hypocrisy?

[This message has been edited by KCTitus (edited 11-03-2000).]

Shootr · 11-03-2000, 12:27 PM

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Boy a week ago most people were slamming Brian Griese for his DUI. It comes out that Bush did it and now it isn't a big deal. People want to hold Corey Dillon's past against him and use it as an excuse for KC not to sign him, but if something is in the past regarding Bush, it shouldn't be considered <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope my fellow republicans will agree with me with this statement:

[b]It happened 24 years ago, not 24 hours ago. Last I knew alcohol was a legal drug at the time, Clinton and Gore smokin' pot was against the law to possess it much less to smoke it. I think it is incredible the free pass Clinton or Gore for smoking pot from the liberals. But I guess that is to be expected because of the stand a lot of liberals have with the 'legalization of pot'.[/b]

True, it was a horrible lapse of judgement, but didn't the lib's say something to the effect of: [b]'It was a youthful indescression'[/b] or [b]'He hasn't done it since then'[/b].

Doesn't this truely show how desperate the Gore camp is?

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JOhn · 11-03-2000, 12:33 PM

Clint, Drew, nj,

You state that you can't see the difference between this and the stench that has come from the Clinton Administration and the Liberals that have supported it.

OK, I'll take you at your word. I'll assume that you really can't understand the difference, but rest assured, most of the American people can. You will see that in five days.

And when this does become obvious, I hope you will all take pause and ask yourself, "what is it that everyone else knows that I don't?"

On this BB there are a number of people that we can all learn from their great insight, there are others that don't have a clue ~ but will 'loudly' talk anyway.

Luz
perhaps you need to reevaluate who's who...

Shootr · 11-03-2000, 12:35 PM

Luz,

I think the majority of the people will see this for what is is really [b]a political ploy[/b] to win the white house. Like I said before, the Gore team is desperate.

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chiefs2034 · 11-03-2000, 12:36 PM

Luzap...........AMEN

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Chiefs Rock

11-03-2000, 12:55 PM

Coming from a Bush voter/Independant (not a Republican), I don't think Gore is behind this.

I will say this, I would rather vote for someone who got a DUI over 2 decades ago, than for a man who has been lying to the American people, himself, his family, etc. during his whole campaign.

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TWB

**ChiTown** · 11-03-2000, 12:59 PM

It's late in the 4th quarter for Gore and he's behind. He's starting to throw Hail Mary's. He's desperate

Shootr · 11-03-2000, 01:14 PM

Let's just hope GW doesn't pull a CS.... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

Luzap · 11-03-2000, 01:15 PM

BroncoFan:

"This is a very "Big Deal", right Gaz. I mean, this is a VERY BIG DEAL! Mark, Pitt, this guy just CAN'T be president now!"

Once again your mouth starts yapping [b]WAY[/b] before you brain engages. Do you ANYWHERE see where I have condoned this behaviour by Bush?[b]NO YOU DON'T !!![/b].
And you won't either. I have a little less respect for Bush today knowing that he did that.

Now onto the bait you laid out here hoping that I would exhibit a double standard. Nowhere did I say that Greise should be kept from plying his trade, just that, although you consider it "nothing" that he was caught but didn't kill anyone, I consider it a little more deserving of something more than a "ho-hum".

Keep your pitiful attempts to fish to yourself.

mmaddog
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**morphius** · 11-03-2000, 01:15 PM

Jeez, if you conservatives are so condescending now, it'll be incredible around here if Bush wins the election.

Lightning Rod · 11-03-2000, 01:17 PM

bkkcoh - re#65 - I just want to add to this running record that Bush admits to using cocaine when he was young. I'm not saying one drug is worse than the other and I'm also not saying that one candidate is worse than the other. You just might want to rethink that post. Both men have made mistakes with illicit drugs in the past and both men still have support from their political brethren.

I'm gonna go try to stand in a neutral corner now...

11-03-2000, 12:18 PM	#61
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	Boy a week ago most people were slamming Brian Griese for his DUI. It comes out that Bush did it and now it isn't a big deal. People want to hold Corey Dillon's past against him and use it as an excuse for KC not to sign him, but Bush's past indiscretions shouldn't be considered. Clinton is a bad person and lacks moral convictions for having an affair, but yet the same standard doesn't apply to a presidential candidate who abused alcohol and cocaine. I'm starting to see a trend here. [This message has been edited by Chiefnj (edited 11-03-2000).]
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11-03-2000, 12:19 PM	#62
Shootr Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Independence, MO USA Casino cash: $10004925	Look for Tom Connolly to be given an appointment in the Gore Administration if there is such a beast. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] ------------------ bk
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11-03-2000, 12:20 PM	#63
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	Chiefnj: It's funny...after the previous two election cycles we were told this 'old' stuff didnt matter and that it was a witchhunt and dirty politics. Now it does matter? You're right there is a trend here.
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11-03-2000, 12:22 PM	#64
redshirt32 Fire Controlman Vet Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: By the Sea Casino cash: $6164936	Oh Clint and DD, yes I guess a DUI is so much more serious than a rape... My gosh, where have I been living?! Bush's DUI was as a private citizen. Clinton's rape occurred while as an elected official representing the state of Arkansas... There is a big difference here... You guys just don't want to see it...<BR>
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11-03-2000, 12:27 PM	#66
Shootr Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Independence, MO USA Casino cash: $10004925	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR> Boy a week ago most people were slamming Brian Griese for his DUI. It comes out that Bush did it and now it isn't a big deal. People want to hold Corey Dillon's past against him and use it as an excuse for KC not to sign him, but if something is in the past regarding Bush, it shouldn't be considered <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I hope my fellow republicans will agree with me with this statement: [b]It happened 24 years ago, not 24 hours ago. Last I knew alcohol was a legal drug at the time, Clinton and Gore smokin' pot was against the law to possess it much less to smoke it. I think it is incredible the free pass Clinton or Gore for smoking pot from the liberals. But I guess that is to be expected because of the stand a lot of liberals have with the 'legalization of pot'.[/b] True, it was a horrible lapse of judgement, but didn't the lib's say something to the effect of: [b]'It was a youthful indescression'[/b] or [b]'He hasn't done it since then'[/b]. Doesn't this truely show how desperate the Gore camp is? ------------------ bk
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11-02-2000, 11:03 PM
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	I'm surprised none of our resident political types have started this, but its a slow night, so what the hell. On the eve of the election, a Portland, Maine reporter broke the story that GW was arrested for drunk driving in 1976. This is, of course, the political equivalent of a brand new Ferrari for the liberal press, and they've got it red-lined already. Thoughts on this: 1. Funny how this broke four days before the election. I'm sure the Gore camp had nothing to do with it... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img] 2. IT WAS 24 YEARS AGO! It's not like the guy got crocked and plowed into a school bus last week. 3. The libs are painting this as a character issue, labeling GW a hypocrit for not disclosing this incident, yet railing on the moral indiscretions of Gore and Clinton. GW says he kept it quiet because he didn't want his kids to know about it. Hmm... it seems to me that the President of the United States lying under oath is a bit more damning that not disclosing that GW once got a DUI decades ago. Perhaps that's just me. 4. GW says he quit drinking 14 years ago. 5. Like the guy drives himself anywhere, anyway! I hope the American public can see this for what it so obviously is - a timebomb Gore has known about, probably for months, that is dropped at the 11th hour in an attempt to salvage his mercifully-failing campaign. This is dirty politics at its worst. As a result of this, I support GW more strongly than ever now.
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11-03-2000, 12:23 PM	#65
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	Donkey Drew: Do you remember this post? [i]This is inexcusable behavior on Griese's behalf, but its amazing how the self righteous come out of the woodwork when a pro athlete shows a lapse in judgement. Let's not forget that Griese is still very young and very prone to the stupid mistakes that most young men make. He was probably one of 50 DUI arrests in the Denver metro area saturday night, and the only one to make the papers. [b]That doesn't make it right, but lets not confuse this sort of lack of judgement with a character issue.[/b][/i]. or this one? [i]I was pointing out that this is a common mistake among the 20 something set, and that by itself, it isn't indicative of some sort of character problem.[/i] Can you say hypocrisy? [This message has been edited by KCTitus (edited 11-03-2000).]
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11-03-2000, 12:33 PM	#67
JOhn El' Barto Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Cody, WY / Tucson AZ Casino cash: $9964900	Clint, Drew, nj, You state that you can't see the difference between this and the stench that has come from the Clinton Administration and the Liberals that have supported it. OK, I'll take you at your word. I'll assume that you really can't understand the difference, but rest assured, most of the American people can. You will see that in five days. And when this does become obvious, I hope you will all take pause and ask yourself, "what is it that everyone else knows that I don't?" On this BB there are a number of people that we can all learn from their great insight, there are others that don't have a clue ~ but will 'loudly' talk anyway. Luz perhaps you need to reevaluate who's who... <BR>
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11-03-2000, 12:35 PM	#68
Shootr Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Independence, MO USA Casino cash: $10004925	Luz, I think the majority of the people will see this for what is is really [b]a political ploy[/b] to win the white house. Like I said before, the Gore team is desperate. ------------------ bk
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11-03-2000, 12:36 PM	#69
chiefs2034 Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Houston,TX,US Casino cash: $10004900	Luzap...........AMEN ------------------ Chiefs Rock
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11-03-2000, 12:55 PM	#70
Iowanian Guest Casino cash: $	Coming from a Bush voter/Independant (not a Republican), I don't think Gore is behind this. I will say this, I would rather vote for someone who got a DUI over 2 decades ago, than for a man who has been lying to the American people, himself, his family, etc. during his whole campaign. ------------------ TWB
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11-03-2000, 12:59 PM	#71
ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $3313962	It's late in the 4th quarter for Gore and he's behind. He's starting to throw Hail Mary's. He's desperate
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11-03-2000, 01:14 PM	#72
Shootr Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Independence, MO USA Casino cash: $10004925	Let's just hope GW doesn't pull a CS.... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]<P>
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11-03-2000, 01:15 PM	#73
Luzap 9.89 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $10004900	BroncoFan: "This is a very "Big Deal", right Gaz. I mean, this is a VERY BIG DEAL! Mark, Pitt, this guy just CAN'T be president now!" Once again your mouth starts yapping [b]WAY[/b] before you brain engages. Do you ANYWHERE see where I have condoned this behaviour by Bush?[b]NO YOU DON'T !!![/b]. And you won't either. I have a little less respect for Bush today knowing that he did that. Now onto the bait you laid out here hoping that I would exhibit a double standard. Nowhere did I say that Greise should be kept from plying his trade, just that, although you consider it "nothing" that he was caught but didn't kill anyone, I consider it a little more deserving of something more than a "ho-hum". Keep your pitiful attempts to fish to yourself. mmaddog ***********
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11-03-2000, 01:15 PM	#74
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6955027	Jeez, if you conservatives are so condescending now, it'll be incredible around here if Bush wins the election.
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11-03-2000, 01:17 PM	#75
Lightning Rod Need a new title Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Prairie Village Casino cash: $10004900	bkkcoh - re#65 - I just want to add to this running record that Bush admits to using cocaine when he was young. I'm not saying one drug is worse than the other and I'm also not saying that one candidate is worse than the other. You just might want to rethink that post. Both men have made mistakes with illicit drugs in the past and both men still have support from their political brethren. I'm gonna go try to stand in a neutral corner now...
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