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Old 10-30-2013, 08:06 PM   #1
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I'm not questioning the D. I'm worried about this abortion of an oline.
Has there ever been a team, or a fan base of the team that ever gave a shit more about offense of lineman than the Kansas City Chiefs it's frankly embarrassing
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:08 PM   #2
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:36 PM   #3
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Has there ever been a team, or a fan base of the team that ever gave a shit more about offense of lineman than the Kansas City Chiefs it's frankly embarrassing
The offensive line is unimportant to a team's success
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:43 PM   #4
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Yep, hell I could play right tackle for Kansas City.

They might as well not even be there.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:45 PM   #5
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Yep, hell I could play right tackle for Kansas City.

They might as well not even be there.
1) In for look.

2) Ours barely is, so why not?
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I'm on the red eye as i type, please make sure the masseuse is ready...
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I'm thinking that if you can at least match Fishers performance in game 1, you'll be off to a good start. In lieu of the traditional pads and what-not, we'll be suiting you up in a red headwaiters uniform.

Simply hold the tray of snacks and/or Gatorade at the line, and when Axl calls the snap, say "right this way, sir" and move aside.

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Old 10-30-2013, 08:56 PM   #8
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Has there ever been a team, or a fan base of the team that ever gave a shit more about offense of lineman than the Kansas City Chiefs it's frankly embarrassing
I didn't wana take a RT 1.1. Just saying the oline is a big concern
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I didn't wana take a RT 1.1. Just saying the oline is a big concern
Our O-line needs for Smith demand creativity.

We'll have Demonpenz drive light-cycle across the LOS, leaving an impregnable energy bar that will result de-resolution if the enemy dares to cross. Couple this with an Atari 2600 wheel-controller for Andy to operate said energy-line, and we've got this.
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I didn't wana take a RT 1.1. Just saying the oline is a big concern
If Allen, Asamoah, Hudson and Fisher were average, complaining would be inappropriate.

But they aren't: They're this team's biggest liability both individually and collectively.

Anyone that complains about people pointing out that the line sucks is a complete ****ing moron.
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If Allen, Asamoah, Hudson and Fisher were average, complaining would be inappropriate.

But they aren't: They're this team's biggest liability both individually and collectively.

Anyone that complains about people pointing out that the line sucks is a complete ****ing moron.
I'll say this, with this line if we can win a playoff game it's a damn good accomplishment
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If Allen, Asamoah, Hudson and Fisher were average, complaining would be inappropriate.

But they aren't: They're this team's biggest liability both individually and collectively.

Anyone that complains about people pointing out that the line sucks is a complete ****ing moron.
...and has led to Smith being sacked the 3rd most of any qb in the league. It's not like the guy is a statue back there either- as he's our 2nd leading rusher on the team. Not to mention for all the complaints about not throwing deeper to our. guys, well, you do have to be able to give him some protection to let longer plays develop. People talk about if you get pressure on Manning you can throw him off, and Alex is constantly having to guess which guy will blow an assignment and getting pressure.

That's not to deflect some of his poor execution at times, because he's overthrown guys and such too, but it's tough to get any rhythm down when they are limited in how often they can take shots down the field because I know they are calling a ton more plays that are short stuff simply because the protection can't be relied on to give him 5+ seconds many times.
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...and has led to Smith being sacked the 3rd most of any qb in the league. It's not like the guy is a statue back there either- as he's our 2nd leading rusher on the team. Not to mention for all the complaints about not throwing deeper to our. guys, well, you do have to be able to give him some protection to let longer plays develop. People talk about if you get pressure on Manning you can throw him off, and Alex is constantly having to guess which guy will blow an assignment and getting pressure.

That's not to deflect some of his poor execution at times, because he's overthrown guys and such too, but it's tough to get any rhythm down when they are limited in how often they can take shots down the field because I know they are calling a ton more plays that are short stuff simply because the protection can't be relied on to give him 5+ seconds many times.
Smith also takes a lot of sacks. It's his nature.

Part of his improvement in SF was using PA passing and having a ****ing all star offensive line...
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Smith also takes a lot of sacks. It's his nature.

Part of his improvement in SF was using PA passing and having a ****ing all star offensive line...
Ya, I know that's been his reputation of holding the ball sometimes too long and taking sacks he shouldn't, instead at least throwing the ball away and move on to the next play / down.

Honestly, I'm asking because I can't say that I've seen a lot of this this year. I'm sure there are a handful of these that he's probably the culprit because he didn't get rid of the ball when he should have, but I'd guess off the top of my head that is maybe 4 sacks?

I could be totally mistaken, and if anyone knows please share.

Speaking of PA, I'm assuming that we've seen less of this than I thought would be featured this year maybe in part due to our struggles with running between the tackles so far this year. Teams aren't having to focus as heavily in aggressively playing to stop the run, so it's not as easy to get them to bite in coming up?
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Ya, I know that's been his reputation of holding the ball sometimes too long and taking sacks he shouldn't, instead at least throwing the ball away and move on to the next play / down.

Honestly, I'm asking because I can't say that I've seen a lot of this this year. I'm sure there are a handful of these that he's probably the culprit because he didn't get rid of the ball when he should have, but I'd guess off the top of my head that is maybe 4 sacks?

I could be totally mistaken, and if anyone knows please share.
Well, I know of at least one. He admitted that the last sack he took against Cleveland he took so the clock would keep running, and for Cleveland to burn a time out.

There are a few that I think he could of gotten rid of. I cant remember if it was week one, or week two against dallas where he ran out of bounds and it was considered a sack, he only lost like a yard, but he could of thrown it away.

He doesn't want to turn the ball over.

I do wish for the safety of himself that he took more chances to throw it away though.
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