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Old 10-06-2019, 11:30 PM  
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Defense narrative is wrong on this game

Chiefs lost because on 10 offensive possessions they scored 13 points. They had plenty of possessions. When you can't convert 1st downs your TOP suffers. It's simply wrong that Indys rush game was why they won. Chiefs gave up 4 ypc, league average, and only 330 total.

Lots of running requires long drives with many opportunities to be stopped, which the chiefs did every drive except the first. Unless you convert those to TDs you aren't scoring enough to win in the modern NFL without a great defense. 19 points won't get it done.

Even in the AFCCG the chiefs only yielded 3.7 ypc. But they couldn't stop the short pass game and gave up 7 TDs. This year's team is getting stops at key times the last two weeks. This week they eliminated big plays except the PI.

The defense has not been good. But it's been good enough to be 5-0, and is getting better. Online is trash, and is not helped by Andy never running the ball or enough screens/draws to keep the opposing D line honest. We get Mo next week and hopefully a trade or two to add a DB and possibly front 7 piece. Chiefs are gonna getcha, yarhoooo.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:52 PM   #16
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By the way, we had 11 penalties for 125 yards.

So, we had that going for us tonight......

Offense, defense, ........it all sucked tonight. Arguing over which unit was worse is like trying to argue who is the biggest midget. Who cares, they’re midgets!
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:53 PM   #17
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Blame all around here.

Offensive play calling was poor.
Penalties.
Poor O-line play.
Receivers unable to shake man coverage.
No run game.
Turnovers.
Poor run defense.
Inability to force Indy into 2nd/3rd and long consistently.

Overall Indy executed their game-plan with a depleted roster. Easily the more physical team.
Don't most of these sound like recent playoff losses?
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:55 PM   #18
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Don't most of these sound like recent playoff losses?
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:55 PM   #19
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Blame all around here.

Offensive play calling was poor.
Penalties.
Poor O-line play.
Receivers unable to shake man coverage.
No run game.
Turnovers.
Poor run defense.
Inability to force Indy into 2nd/3rd and long consistently.

Overall Indy executed their game-plan with a depleted roster. Easily the more physical team.
This.

All I'm really saying is that putting all the blame on the defense this week is like putting your head in the sand.

Some players balled out today. But the team as a whole was sloppy.

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Old 10-06-2019, 11:56 PM   #20
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And what the hell was with calling three time-outs with 4 minutes left in the game when we were clearly going to give up another first.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:01 AM   #21
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The Colts held the ball for almost 40 minutes, and in the 2nd half alone had an 11 play 7 minute drive and a 14 play 9 minute drive, and the only pass they threw was called back for a penalty on a pick play...and you want to sit there and tell me that WASN'T the defense's fault?

Are you ****ing SERIOUS!?

WE HAD FOUR POSSESSIONS IN THE SECOND HALF.

THEY RAN 20 MORE PLAYS THAN WE DID.

THEY RAN THE BALL AT WILL.

11 PLAY, 7 MINUTE DRIVE.

14 PLAY, 9 MINUTE DRIVE.

THAT'S OVER A FULL QUARTER IN TWO DRIVES...AND THEY KEPT MAHOMES OFF THE FIELD FOR OVER A QUARTER OF THE GAME ON TWO DRIVES.

THINK ABOUT THAT.
Nope, Indy scored only 6 points in the half with its run every down strategy. I'll take the chiefs every game to score more than 6 on 4 possessions. D held up its end. The greater concern on D would be pass rush and corner play. The pass game is where the impact lies. I hope more teams adopt this losing strategy. Easy math.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:05 AM   #22
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Nope, Indy scored only 6 points in the half with its run every down strategy. I'll take the chiefs every game to score more than 6 on 4 possessions. D held up its end. The greater concern on D would be pass rush and corner play. The pass game is where the impact lies. I hope more teams adopt this losing strategy. Easy math.
So...did you actually watch the game? Because the Chiefs did not score more than 6 points on 4 possessions.

Carlos Hyde gets his revenge next week.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:06 AM   #24
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That was definition “bend don’t break” defense tonight.

Faulting the defense for losing a game 13-19 is absolutely bonkers, can’t believe this is the narrative.

Time of possession doesn’t matter as much as the pessimists of the defense would have you believe. That defense tonight wins every game in 2018.

We will return to what we were on offense in 2018 as soon as we get healthy and this defense is good enough, stop with the overreactions.

We asked for improvement from absolutely terrible to just average to go with our historically great offense, we got it. Offense didn’t hold their end tonight which is likely cause they’re beat to sh1t with injuries.

It’s all about winning the SB in Feb and this defense is good enough, just get the offense to return to form.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:06 AM   #25
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D held up its end.
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:08 AM   #26
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Nope, Indy scored only 6 points in the half with its run every down strategy. I'll take the chiefs every game to score more than 6 on 4 possessions. D held up its end. The greater concern on D would be pass rush and corner play. The pass game is where the impact lies. I hope more teams adopt this losing strategy. Easy math.
Sorry, but you are just wrong.

The defense was not good. The offense was not good. Special Teams were okay.

This was a complete team loss. Players sucked, coaches sucked, offense sucked, defense sucked.

Everybody has plenty of blame.
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That was definition “bend don’t break” defense tonight.

Faulting the defense for losing a game 13-19 is absolutely bonkers, can’t believe this is the narrative.

Time of possession doesn’t matter as much as the pessimists of the defense would have you believe. That defense tonight wins every game in 2018.

We will return to what we were on offense in 2018 as soon as we get healthy and this defense is good enough, stop with the overreactions.

We asked for improvement from absolutely terrible to just average to go with our historically great offense, we got it. Offense didn’t hold their end tonight which is likely cause they’re beat to sh1t with injuries.

It’s all about winning the SB in Feb and this defense is good enough, just get the offense to return to form.
You're a ****ing idiot.

2 drives = 16 minutes

They didn't "bend"; they got their shit pushed in. Hard. Like a whore on nickel night.
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How come when we used to have a defense and a running game designed to keep the opposing star QB off the field, it never worked but now that happens to us with our star QB? Because Chiefs I guess

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You're a ****ing moron.
Stats. 19 points. Under league and Indy average. Average yardage allowed despite offense inability to keep them off the field. Your point?
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Sorry, but you are just wrong.

The defense was not good. The offense was not good. Special Teams were okay.

This was a complete team loss. Players sucked, coaches sucked, offense sucked, defense sucked.

Everybody has plenty of blame.
No doubt but remember what we asked for was just good enough. We didn’t ask for a great defense, we asked for a good enough defense to not lose games 51-54 and 43-40. We got the improvement needed, we are an offensive strengthed team, can’t expect more. Just good enough that if we score 30+ we win which seems to be lived up to.
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