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Old 12-17-2012, 12:47 AM   #1
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I never understood the hate with that guy, he had all the makings of a good coach, he was just being held back by a maniacal freak.
Yeah, right.

It was all Pioli's fault that Todd hired four offensive coordinators in 2.5 years.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:48 AM   #2
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Yeah, right.

It was all Pioli's fault that Todd hired four offensive coordinators in 2.5 years.
I felt the first 2 were pushed on him.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:48 AM   #3
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I felt the first 2 were pushed on him.
Gailey and himself?
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:08 AM   #4
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Gailey and himself?
Gailey and Weiss
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:20 AM   #5
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Gailey and himself?
No - Weis and Muir.

Haley wanted to be his own OC.

He also wanted an actual NFL QB or two on his roster to run said offense.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:22 AM   #6
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No - Weis and Muir.

Haley wanted to be his own OC.

He also wanted an actual NFL QB or two on his roster to run said offense.
Dude, you're about 3.5 years with this shit.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:18 AM   #7
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Yeah, right.

It was all Pioli's fault that Todd hired four offensive coordinators in 2.5 years.
Gailey was in place when Haley got here...the only coordinators Haley hired in his 2.5 seasons were Muir and Weis.

To be be perfectly accurate.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:21 AM   #8
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Gailey was in place when Haley got here...the only coordinators Haley hired in his 2.5 seasons were Muir and Weis.

To be be perfectly accurate.
I know the history. It was a joke.

Hailey showed poor judgement in firing Gailey when he did.

But overall, the Haley worship around here is ludicrous, IMO. He sucked as a head coach and has not done much with a loaded offense in Pittsburgh this season.
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I know the history. It was a joke.

Hailey showed poor judgement in firing Gailey when he did.
The only poor judgement of Haley's regarding Gailey was by not firing Chan the moment Haley was hired.

The way I heard it, Haley really didn't have a choice in firing Gailey, anyway.

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But overall, the Haley worship around here is ludicrous, IMO. He sucked as a head coach and has not done much with a loaded offense in Pittsburgh this season.
Haley didn't suck as a Head Coach - that's ridiculous, Dane. He was young, and straddled with a roster that had no depth, no QB, and the worst GM in franchise history.

The fact that he was able to accomplish what he did with what he had, is in fact a testament to his NOT being terrible. And Big Ben is basically putting up the most efficient numbers of his career (regardless of his pick today - Carr's a stud.)

Plus, he loved this city and loved coaching here - he gave a shit, and it showed.

With a supportive GM, Haley will be a successful head coach.

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And himself to be 100% accurate
He became OC out of default in '09; I wouldn't call delegating a job to yourself a 'hire.'

Unless he pocketed Gailey's paychecks - then it would be accurate.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:59 AM   #10
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Haley didn't suck as a Head Coach - that's ridiculous, Dane.


His record and tenure prove otherwise.
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Haley didn't suck as a Head Coach - that's ridiculous, Dane.
No, it's not.

Looking back I think we can all see he was fighting an uphill battle with the f/o (so I wouldn't place all blame on him) but his response was to completely flake out and our team flamed out...
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The only poor judgement of Haley's regarding Gailey was by not firing Chan the moment Haley was hired.
This.
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Gailey was in place when Haley got here...the only coordinators Haley hired in his 2.5 seasons were Muir and Weis.

To be be perfectly accurate.
And himself to be 100% accurate
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