Chiefs Who likes the Bill Muir promotion and who dont? - Page 3

CrazyHorse · 02-03-2011, 04:26 PM

Just thought it might be easier to keep track with a poll.

ModSocks · 02-03-2011, 05:41 PM

I dont like it.

Bill Muir adds nothing new to the team. I am not confident in his ability to scheme. I do however think that Todd Haley will do just fine calling the plays, but we're going to see the angry, pissed at everyone and screaming like a maniac Todd that we saw in 09.

He's going to be spread to thin because he won't be happy with what Muir devises and will probably drastically modify what he puts together every week. Screaming at players will occur and the team will get stressed out and not play comfortably. It's a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.

But hold on a second....

IF, and a BIG IF, the play calling is divided up, it MIGHT not be so bad. If Muir calls the run plays and Haley becomes the PASSING game coordinator like he was in Dallas, it might not be too bad.

Hootie · 02-03-2011, 05:44 PM

In 2009, Haley was a first time head coach with a bunch of guys who weren't quite sold coaching guys who were unfamiliar with his system, unfamiliar with his expectations, etc. etc. etc.

People are being a bit naive if they think Todd Haley is going to be the same guy in 2011 as he was in 2009.

**the Talking Can** · 02-03-2011, 05:45 PM

it doesn't really matter which 205 year old Haley hires to wipe his ass...

this all rests on Haley

**DaFace** · 02-03-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan

I don't necessarily like it, but I'm not ready to get on the ledge with a lot of others. I'm willing to give it a chance.

I am quoting this post to indicate my agreement with its contents.

ModSocks · 02-03-2011, 05:47 PM

You know, now that I think about it....

If Muir is devising the running game every week and Haley is scheming the passing game...maybe it wont be a disaster. Lets see if they bring in a QB coach. My worry is that Haley may be too abrasive to get through to Cassel.

Rasputin · 02-03-2011, 05:47 PM

He is 70yo. other than that.....

I'm not going to go homeristic over the hire. I still am going to be optimistic with the direction we are headed, provided we have a good draft and guys step up huge for us that we drafted the last few years.

I'm sure we will be in the same situation next year with hireing another OC so he is a filller for the next guy imo. Haley is going to be calling the shots.

I would think a HC would be making most of the game planning and let the OC have at it on game day play calling. That would make most since to me.

WTF?!?!? If Muir is compitant fine, but mid season and he has a heart attack or just keels over dead from being OLD then again we will be looking for a new OC.

Hootie · 02-03-2011, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

it doesn't really matter which 205 year old Haley hires to wipe his ass...

this all rests on Haley

and I don't see the problem with that

this is his team, this is his shot...he may never get another

I have no problem with a head coach calling the shots...that's why he's paid.

Referencing his 2009 is stupid if you ask me...we're a different team with different personnel with guys who know what to expect.

patteeu · 02-03-2011, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Haley is the head coach...

This might be his one shot as NFL head coach...

if he wants to call the plays on his team...I am all for it.

If he sucks, they'll can him...if not...then good hire.

It's Haley's team so I don't mind the promotion...Haley is going to call the plays.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Whatever Scott and Todd want is okay by me. They've made great progress so far and I have no reason to doubt them.

I agree with these. If Haley wants to call the plays, I'm OK with it. I think it's great that he's going to have someone focused on O-coordination and gameplanning throughout the week so he can attend to head coaching matters (unlike his first season here), but on gameday I'm fine with him calling the plays. And I also like the fact that a Muir hire means relative consistency going forward for the guys who have been in the system for the past couple of years.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-03-2011, 06:00 PM

This poll outcome would be no different if Todd Haley hired badgirl as the OC.

**Rain Man** · 02-03-2011, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

WTF?!?!? If Muir is compitant fine, but mid season and he has a heart attack or just keels over dead from being OLD then again we will be looking for a new OC.

It's progress that we have a season where people aren't wishing the OC would keel over and die.

-King- · 02-03-2011, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This poll outcome would be no different if Todd Haley hired badgirl as the OC.

If you met Bill Muir in person and didn't know he was the OC, you would never guess he was the OC.

**DeezNutz** · 02-03-2011, 06:04 PM

The third option shows that people aren't entirely plugged into the situation because Muir is coaching the line. There's no such thing as "not sure" in this situation.

And, again, no one gives a shit about Haley calling plays, at least not in isolation. The problem is that a HC is supposed to manage the game on Sundays, first and foremost, and Haley was a ****ing disaster at this in '09.

CoMoChief · 02-03-2011, 06:06 PM

Well, IMO we've been down this road w/ Solari....and he ended up becoming the next Greg Robinson of asst coach bashing.

I see this as Haley's "yes sir" hire to be completely honest. Haley can't and won't keep his fingers off of the playcalling (don't know if that's a good or bad thing).

I don't like the hire(promotion) one bit.....but I'm willing to see what happens. I wish we had a different QB.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-03-2011, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Haley is the head coach...

This might be his one shot as NFL head coach...

if he wants to call the plays on his team...I am all for it.

If he sucks, they'll can him...if not...then good hire.

It's Haley's team so I don't mind the promotion...Haley is going to call the plays.

I don't necessarily mind that Haley will be calling the plays and I fully expect(ed) that to be the case.

The problem I have is with the man he hired. He's 69 years old and was a below average offensive line coach AND a below average offensive coordinator.

I'd have rather seen Nick Sirianni or any number of young coaches get the gig, even under the same exact circumstances.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-03-2011, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This poll outcome would be no different if Todd Haley hired badgirl as the OC.

View Poll Results: You likey or no?
Yes I am encouraged	22	12.09%
No. I hate it	120	65.93%
Not sure. Who's gonna coach the line now?	40	21.98%
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02-03-2011, 05:41 PM	#31
ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4274563	I dont like it. Bill Muir adds nothing new to the team. I am not confident in his ability to scheme. I do however think that Todd Haley will do just fine calling the plays, but we're going to see the angry, pissed at everyone and screaming like a maniac Todd that we saw in 09. He's going to be spread to thin because he won't be happy with what Muir devises and will probably drastically modify what he puts together every week. Screaming at players will occur and the team will get stressed out and not play comfortably. It's a ticking time bomb waiting to happen. But hold on a second.... IF, and a BIG IF, the play calling is divided up, it MIGHT not be so bad. If Muir calls the run plays and Haley becomes the PASSING game coordinator like he was in Dallas, it might not be too bad. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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02-03-2011, 05:44 PM	#32
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	In 2009, Haley was a first time head coach with a bunch of guys who weren't quite sold coaching guys who were unfamiliar with his system, unfamiliar with his expectations, etc. etc. etc. People are being a bit naive if they think Todd Haley is going to be the same guy in 2011 as he was in 2009.
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02-03-2011, 05:45 PM	#33
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	it doesn't really matter which 205 year old Haley hires to wipe his ass... this all rests on Haley __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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02-03-2011, 05:47 PM	#35
ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4274563	You know, now that I think about it.... If Muir is devising the running game every week and Haley is scheming the passing game...maybe it wont be a disaster. Lets see if they bring in a QB coach. My worry is that Haley may be too abrasive to get through to Cassel. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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02-03-2011, 05:47 PM	#36
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3465421	He is 70yo. other than that..... I'm not going to go homeristic over the hire. I still am going to be optimistic with the direction we are headed, provided we have a good draft and guys step up huge for us that we drafted the last few years. I'm sure we will be in the same situation next year with hireing another OC so he is a filller for the next guy imo. Haley is going to be calling the shots. I would think a HC would be making most of the game planning and let the OC have at it on game day play calling. That would make most since to me. WTF?!?!? If Muir is compitant fine, but mid season and he has a heart attack or just keels over dead from being OLD then again we will be looking for a new OC.
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02-03-2011, 06:00 PM	#39
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	This poll outcome would be no different if Todd Haley hired badgirl as the OC. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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02-03-2011, 06:06 PM	#43
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	Well, IMO we've been down this road w/ Solari....and he ended up becoming the next Greg Robinson of asst coach bashing. I see this as Haley's "yes sir" hire to be completely honest. Haley can't and won't keep his fingers off of the playcalling (don't know if that's a good or bad thing). I don't like the hire(promotion) one bit.....but I'm willing to see what happens. I wish we had a different QB.
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