Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 107

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Discuss Thrower · 09-28-2013, 06:34 PM

As long as Ned is managing I will harbor no optimism for the Royals next year.

He's proven he can take talent like Gordon, Shields, Hosmer and Holland to a third place finish in the Central. Whoop-dee-****ing-doo.

tk13 · 09-28-2013, 06:59 PM

The Houston Astros catcher just made one of the worst plays I have ever seen by a catcher. It will surely be GIF'ed by the end of the evening. Tried to fake a throw to 2nd, lost the ball and spiked it off the plate... Yankees runner at 3rd scored. Amazing.

tk13 · 09-28-2013, 07:01 PM

On the positive side... Butler and Moose have both homered tonight. Ventura came back to earth a bit though. 4-3 White Sox in the 6th inning.

C3HIEF3S · 09-28-2013, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

The Houston Astros catcher just made one of the worst plays I have ever seen by a catcher. It will surely be GIF'ed by the end of the evening. Tried to fake a throw to 2nd, lost the ball and spiked it off the plate... Yankees runner at 3rd scored. Amazing.

Can't wait to see this.

Prison Bitch · 09-28-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bsp4444

Charlie Manuel, anyone? Dude is old but can get hitters to hit.

Is he the guy who got fired for not getting his 159M payroll on their way to crack 73 wins this year or the guy who got his 172M payroll to 81-81 last year? I can't remember

siberian khatru · 09-28-2013, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

The Houston Astros catcher just made one of the worst plays I have ever seen by a catcher. It will surely be GIF'ed by the end of the evening. Tried to fake a throw to 2nd, lost the ball and spiked it off the plate... Yankees runner at 3rd scored. Amazing.

Lonnie Smith-esque

tk13 · 09-28-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Can't wait to see this.

To be fair... it might have spiked off the dirt instead of the plate... I'd have to see it again. But it was horrible. It should probably lead off the highlight DVD of the Astros' season.

SPchief · 09-28-2013, 07:38 PM

Salvy!

stonedstooge · 09-28-2013, 07:38 PM

IT'S A HOMER FEST IN THE SOUTH OF CHICAGO TONIGHT

KevB · 09-28-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief

Salvy!

And then he throws a guy out from his knees. What an incredible development ---- stud catchers are so hard to come by, and I don't know if there's another catcher I'd trade Salvy for today. Maybe Posey, but Sal is 3 years younger.

stonedstooge · 09-28-2013, 08:15 PM

Royals drop 1.

-King- · 09-28-2013, 08:28 PM

Yosted.

-King- · 09-28-2013, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry

I fully believe yost lost us by his self atleast 10 games

You really think a baseball manager has that big of an affect on the outcome of a game? Of all the major sports, they may have the smallest affect.

Al Bundy · 09-28-2013, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

You really think a baseball manager has that big of an affect on the outcome of a game? Of all the major sports, they may have the smallest affect.

I imagine he cost us 5 by playing guys who had zero reason to play, all those games wasted on Getz, Francouer, Elliot Johnson.

tk13 · 09-29-2013, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Can't wait to see this.

Here it is!

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1962500	The Houston Astros catcher just made one of the worst plays I have ever seen by a catcher. It will surely be GIF'ed by the end of the evening. Tried to fake a throw to 2nd, lost the ball and spiked it off the plate... Yankees runner at 3rd scored. Amazing.
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