Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 17

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

ROYC75 · 08-19-2013, 07:59 PM

We will only lose 12 more games this year, finish 91 - 71. Will it be enough to catch Detroit?

Only if Detroit lays an egg. We have to sweep them at home and win the series away.

Enough for a WC game ? Possibly, again, will the other teams in front of us falter enough to fall back.

That Miami series at home is really playing HUGH if we finish 91 - 71.

We must sweep all the lower teams and win each series against the contending teams.

A very TALL frigging order!

Beside people, who's to say that Santana may not stay here if he really likes it and feels he doesn't have to live up to the big city hype ?

Duffy will be in the rotation going down the stretch and in it next year!

Screw Davis!

Archie F. Swin · 08-20-2013, 06:40 AM

Wins and Losses through August 19th

2003 65-59
2004 45-75
2005 38-82
2006 45-80
2007 55-68
2008 55-70
2009 47-73
2010 51-70
2011 51-75
2012 54-66
2013 64-59

Three7s · 08-20-2013, 07:29 AM

So, we're the same as we were in 2003. Joy.

DMAC · 08-20-2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

So, we're the same as we were in 2003. Joy.

How favorable was the last month of games in 2003 compared to now?

Archie F. Swin · 08-20-2013, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s

So, we're the same as we were in 2003. Joy.

in the Sept 2003, the Royals played < .450 ball

WhawhaWhat · 08-20-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

So, we're the same as we were in 2003. Joy.

Except that the Royals were in first place on that date. The AL Central, mostly Detroit and Cleveland, was a dumpster fire that year.

mr. tegu · 08-20-2013, 10:34 AM

We need to go 26-13 the rest of the way to reach 90 wins which would probably be enough to get into the playoffs. That will be tough to do but that is the hope that I am going to cling to.

Archie F. Swin · 08-20-2013, 10:38 AM

If Cabrera is ever pinched for PEDs, I will burn what's left of Detroit down.

Archie F. Swin · 08-20-2013, 11:32 AM

Pitching staff for #Royals Class AAA Omaha affiliate takes aim at PCL's strikeout record: http://t.co/dvRyv9v4pG
— Rob White (@rwhiteOWH) August 20, 2013

orly?

WhawhaWhat · 08-20-2013, 01:22 PM

KK is blowing up the KC Star, Dutton and Mellinger right now about the Tejada story. He is generally full of S, but it's fun when people going on tangents.

siberian khatru · 08-20-2013, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

KK is blowing up the KC Star, Dutton and Mellinger right now about the Tejada story. He is generally full of S, but it's fun when people going on tangents.

The massive NFL drug ring will be exposed any day now.

SPchief · 08-20-2013, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

KK is blowing up the KC Star, Dutton and Mellinger right now about the Tejada story. He is generally full of S, but it's fun when people going on tangents.

One of his sources finnally got something right so we'll get to hear about for 3 months now.

ChiefsCountry · 08-20-2013, 02:17 PM

Just keep winning 2 out of 3 and the Royals will be fine.

Discuss Thrower · 08-20-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Just keep winning 2 out of 3 and the Royals will be fine.

Not like winning meaningless games will screw up draft position or anything. That's one good thing about baseball.

**Reaper16** · 08-20-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Not like winning meaningless games will screw up draft position or anything. That's one good thing about baseball.

Unless you're really bad. Then meaningless games can mean the difference between getting David Price or not. *cough, season-ending series against the Tigers in 2006, cough*

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1720308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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08-19-2013, 07:59 PM	#241
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $5649400	We will only lose 12 more games this year, finish 91 - 71. Will it be enough to catch Detroit? Only if Detroit lays an egg. We have to sweep them at home and win the series away. Enough for a WC game ? Possibly, again, will the other teams in front of us falter enough to fall back. That Miami series at home is really playing HUGH if we finish 91 - 71. We must sweep all the lower teams and win each series against the contending teams. A very TALL frigging order! Beside people, who's to say that Santana may not stay here if he really likes it and feels he doesn't have to live up to the big city hype ? Duffy will be in the rotation going down the stretch and in it next year! Screw Davis! __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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