School's out for Summer!-AMA

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Bowser

FFS. I shouldn't be shocked to hear that, but still...

Yeah. My wife taught at a catholic school for several years. When she started I was like “SCORE. You get to beat the kids, right!?”

Nope.

Couldn’t even give detention because they didn’t want to screw up the parents schedule for pickup. Ugh.

However the kids were overall better than the public school kids. Especially where she was at.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yeah. My wife taught at a catholic school for several years. When she started I was like “SCORE. You get to beat the kids, right!?”

Nope.

Couldn’t even give detention because they didn’t want to screw up the parents schedule for pickup. Ugh.

However the kids were overall better than the public school kids. Especially where she was at.

We've entered an era of everyone being scared to death of hurting somebody's feelings, bad Yelp reviews and getting sued to oblivion. You know those "None of y'all ever had your ass kicked by a teacher and it shows" memes? Amusing, but they are tinged with truth. Add in how many parents just can't be bothered to be parents these days, and you have this shit storm that is public education. It's concerning for the future.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

How big are you?

Me?
6'1" 270. But with bad knees, ankles I can't take over for Fisher on the line.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Me?
6'1" 270. But with bad knees, ankles I can't take over for Fisher on the line.

Pretty sure that poof was talking about your junk.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Pretty sure that poof was talking about your junk.

I would not call mine junk.

Never understood that term.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Me?
6'1" 270. But with bad knees, ankles I can't take over for Fisher on the line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hung_(TV_series)

[tyecopeland]

Public education sucks on so many levels.
Like I've said, I taught for 6 years and my wife taught for 3 years and we will never send our kids to public school.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Bowser

We've entered an era of everyone being scared to death of hurting somebody's feelings, bad Yelp reviews and getting sued to oblivion. You know those "None of y'all ever had your ass kicked by a teacher and it shows" memes? Amusing, but they are tinged with truth. Add in how many parents just can't be bothered to be parents these days, and you have this shit storm that is public education. It's concerning for the future.

Yeah. Fortunately my town isn’t too bad. But some of the stuff the wife tells me about is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

Public education sucks on so many levels.
Like I've said, I taught for 6 years and my wife taught for 3 years and we will never send our kids to public school.

So are you looking at homeschooling or private school or what?

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

So are you looking at homeschooling or private school or what?

We will home school until probably high school level and then try to figure things out from there.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

We will home school until probably high school level and then try to figure things out from there.

Don’t take this the wrong way. I’m not criticizing or know-it-all-ing or anything. Just an opinion here. Each kid, school, parent, situation is different. But here’s what I see.

School is very much a social exercise as it is an academic one. There are some baseline skills that need to be picked up, as well as some capacity to learn. But just as much as the academic, kids need to learn how to deal with other kids and authority figures.

This was harder for me. I grew up on the farm so I didn’t have daycare or play dates or anything like that. So I got all my socializing from school. And I was behind other kids. It was also evident in a couple kids in my class that were home schooled. They came in late elementary school and knew way more than the rest of the class but they were weird as all get out. By the time high school came around they were average or behind academically and didn’t have much for friends.

The other thing I see is my kids getting a lot out of non-parent interaction. My daughter does far better at school than she does at home. Even with my wife being a teacher. There is something about the authority the teacher has that matters for her. Even before school, she got a long a lot better when she was with kids from her daycare than just at home. Same with my son who’s not in school yet. Non-family interaction matters for my kids anyway.

Not that it matters for me, being self employed there is no way to live without the insurance from the school (and to a lesser extent her cash wages) so my wife can’t stay at home with them. But even then I don’t think we would.

Just something to consider. Again, not criticizing, just an honest opinion of what I see.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

School is very much a social exercise as it is an academic one.

Ty is right. You're making an assumption that public school today is much like it was 30, 20, or even 10 years ago.

When I was in school, we got 50 minutes for lunch in elementary. My youngest daughter, as a 3rd grader, got TEN. They weren't allowed to talk. The entire lunch room was silent, you could hear a pin drop. If they got caught talking, they docked recess time.

And they went from 3 recesses, 15 minutes each, to two, each 7 minutes.

There's very little real social interaction going on in school anymore until the kids get much older, which is incidentally when things like study hall and open campus gets introduced and kids get to actually make decisions for themselves. Until that point, they're pretty much herded like lab rats.

[Mennonite]

How many of the teachers in your school would you say are actually good at their job?

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by Mennonite

How many of the teachers in your school would you say are actually good at their job?

85-90%. There are always a few that struggle. Just like any office.

We have a list of teacher expectations. such as.

one kid out of room at a time-with limited passes out
no passes first and last 10 minutes
no outs during instruction
no phones for students
etc.

There are always the ones that think that does not apply to them. Makes it harder for us that follow the rules.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

85-90%. There are always a few that struggle. Just like any office.

We have a list of teacher expectations. such as.

one kid out of room at a time-with limited passes out
no passes first and last 10 minutes
no outs during instruction
no phones for students
etc.

There are always the ones that think that does not apply to them. Makes it harder for us that follow the rules.

Uh. Wow. I wasn't the greatest teacher and I still was better than a hell of a lot of my coworkers.

I'd say 75 to 80% followed the rules and did stuff but less than 50% of the teachers were actually good at their job. Most just taught stuff the way the book told them to teach stuff or focused solely on the tested materials with no regard to actual life use skills.

[DJay23]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

There are always the ones that think that does not apply to them. Makes it harder for us that follow the rules.

Ugh, we are dealing with this right now. Kids are definitely trying to take over and they are emboldened by the "cool" teachers who let them get away with things (small petty things mind you) they shouldn't be.