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Old 02-12-2020, 09:23 PM  
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LNBS: Who wants to talk about Breeland Speaks?
Nobody? Okay. Good thread! Good thread!

Okay, but seriously...

First of all, he rehabbed his knee injury the entire 2019 season, so he stands a good chance of being 100% to start the season. Also, he was issued a 4-game suspension, but apparently the rules state he was able to serve that suspension while on IR last year, so it turns out he WILL be available Week 1.

Veach fell in love with him when he was playing inside and outside on the line at Ole Miss. He liked how he was around the football a lot and could fight through blocks. His move to OLB in Werthers' scheme kind of took some of that away.

We definitely shouldn't hold our breaths or count on him, but... what are the odds we can get Speaks to bulk back up just a bit and put him inside as an interior 3rd down rusher? Or even use him on multiple downs?

There's no way he's going to transition as a full-time 3-technique guy that Chris Jones was for us. I'm not saying that. But if we're going to ship off Jones and roll with a wall of run-stuffing beef in a rotation of Saunders, Nnadi, and (hopefully) Pennel, do we think we can still get decent situational interior pressure with Speaks? At that point, do we need to make it a priority in the draft to find a 3-technique guy?

Or... alternatively....

Do we think the Chiefs believe Speaks is pretty much sunk, where Spags and company saw what they needed to see in one training camp/preseason and said, "Nope. Still shitty." Like, they're not just going to cut him immediately, but they are planning on moving on from him, and if he ends up pleasantly surprising everybody, then that's just icing on the cake. After all, the positive Chris Jones contract talk coming from sources seems to indicate they view Jones more as a need given what he would leave behind.

I mean, I HATED this pick, but Veach was the ****ing man this offseason. Maybe he actually knew something about this guy, who didn't get much of a chance to shine as a rookie playing a completely unfamiliar role on defense. Playing on the line is something he probably figures to have a lot more success at than being a standup OLB, given it was just like 2 or 3 years prior to his rookie season that he was actually playing NT in college.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:25 PM   #2
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I don’t have any expectations but I also am not giving up on him until I see what Daly/Spags can get out of him.

They clearly had a role for him before he got hurt. He was ahead of KPass IIRC.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:25 PM   #3
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I think the injury could be the best thing to possibly happen to him IF he was motivated to kick his ass into gear and become the best possible version of himself.

I’d like to see him come back in good shape, and I firmly believe he will be a solid player for us in the DL rotation. Why? Because every single DL met or exceeded expectations in 2019 under Daly.

It would be a great, great thing if he could be a real player because if Jones is traded, Speaks may actually be able to provide some push as a pass rushing 3 technique.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:26 PM   #4
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:27 PM   #5
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At this point, everyone's just guessing. We'll just have to wait until training camp. With that said, my guess is with all the free agents on our roster I think we'll have a spot for him on the 53.

Hopefully his dumb ass isn't stuffing down cheetos playing fortnite and actually takes this offseason as a chance to get in shape.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:30 PM   #6
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I thought he looked great in camp and was poised for a big season. I still believe that about this year, he’s definitely a munch better fit for this scheme... I’m still convinced Veach knew we were switching to a 4-3 when he brought in the likes of Speaks, Hitchens, and O’Daniel.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:41 PM   #7
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as long as he doesn't balloon up, he has a chance to be a very productive player. People give him alot of shit because he's not a big muscular guy. Well, he never has been.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:45 PM   #8
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Should’ve called this thread “Breeland Speaks ****ing Sucks”...would’ve guaranteed a Pro Bowl season.
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I thought he looked decent under Buttons. Too slow to be an OLB but I think there is potential there
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:49 PM   #13
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Maybe he will pull a KPass and turn out to be good later in his rookie contract. But KPass is in way better shape. From what I've seen of Speaks, he has some good moves that breaks blocks but has no acceleration, I've seen him beat the blocks and just go to a complete stop for a second and then slowly try to get to the QB, but it's always too late.
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I’m interested in seeing what their plan on the defensive line is for next season. Currently we have Clark, Okafor, KPass, Speaks and Harris. Not sure if they try to bring back Ogbah or not. If they let Jones go....they could try and play either Speaks or KPass on the inside for obvious passing downs.
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I’m interested in seeing what their plan on the defensive line is for next season. Currently we have Clark, Okafor, KPass, Speaks and Harris. Not sure if they try to bring back Ogbah or not. If they let Jones go....they could try and play either Speaks or KPass on the inside for obvious passing downs.
What about Derrick Nnadi?
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