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Old 11-26-2012, 07:06 PM  
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Ray Lewis is Amazing

They are talking about him playing in a couple weeks and starting to practice this week.

Wow.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:05 AM   #61
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You guys realize this is a TEAM game, correct?

Montana and Brady did not win those superbowls on their own.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:01 AM   #62
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The military-industrial complex is behind the success of Ray Lewis.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:02 AM   #63
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:03 AM   #64
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You guys realize this is a TEAM game, correct?

Montana and Brady did not win those superbowls on their own.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:02 AM   #65
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I don't think the league can test for GH at this point in time, so it's not out of reason to think that Ray might have used it for healing. Good for him.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:09 AM   #66
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I don't think the league can test for GH at this point in time, so it's not out of reason to think that Ray might have used it for healing. Good for him.
Honestly, if and when the league finds a way to test for HGH, I think they should allow it to be used for severely injured players. This would allow them to test players that are actively playing every week, but then allow the players the best possible rehab and treatment money can buy when they need it. Honestly, I'm not sure there isn't a massive lawsuit in there somewhere. If I were super wealthy and tore my triceps I would pay for the best treatment available, so I'm not sure the NFL could/should punish an injured player for doing the same.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:12 AM   #67
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the guys is a beast..

his life story on the NFL network is amazing (not just his troubling years)

He is going to be one hell of a coach some day
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:15 AM   #68
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Honestly, if and when the league finds a way to test for HGH, I think they should allow it to be used for severely injured players. This would allow them to test players that are actively playing every week, but then allow the players the best possible rehab and treatment money can buy when they need it. Honestly, I'm not sure there isn't a massive lawsuit in there somewhere. If I were super wealthy and tore my triceps I would pay for the best treatment available, so I'm not sure the NFL could/should punish an injured player for doing the same.
GH doesn't give you any real performance advantage other than allowing you to heal, so I have never been able to figure out why it's banned. It doesn't make you faster or stronger really (regardless of what you have read). It will make you a bit leaner, and allow you to recover from injuries more quickly. Seems like that would be something the league would want to consider endorsing actually.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:20 AM   #69
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GH doesn't give you any real performance advantage other than allowing you to heal, so I have never been able to figure out why it's banned. It doesn't make you faster or stronger really (regardless of what you have read). It will make you a bit leaner, and allow you to recover from injuries more quickly. Seems like that would be something the league would want to consider endorsing actually.
I agree. To be fair, I'm not very familiar with the negative side effects of HGH.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:22 AM   #70
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I agree. To be fair, I'm not very familiar with the negative side effects of HGH.
The only ones there really are, is that it can grow your internal organs and/or bones structure IF you go f'n crazy with how much you are taking. However for guys to really heal and see the wonders from it, you don't need that much. 4-8 i.u. a day during the recovery period.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:27 AM   #71
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The only ones there really are, is that it can grow your internal organs and/or bones structure IF you go f'n crazy with how much you are taking. However for guys to really heal and see the wonders from it, you don't need that much. 4-8 i.u. a day during the recovery period.
I'd heard about the bone structure one and didn't know if it was true. There's been a rumor for quite some time that Randy Couture was on HGH bc of the way his head appeared to swell/change shape over the course of a few years.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:34 AM   #72
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I'd heard about the bone structure one and didn't know if it was true. There's been a rumor for quite some time that Randy Couture was on HGH bc of the way his head appeared to swell/change shape over the course of a few years.
Quite possible. Fighters probably deal with more injuries than any other athlete I can think of. When I was training with fighters a few years ago I was more beat up then than from anything else I ever did before. Even in my years of tournament fighting. MMA really beats the living shit out of you. My guess is most of the guys don't walk into the ring at 100% ever.
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Quite possible. Fighters probably deal with more injuries than any other athlete I can think of. When I was training with fighters a few years ago I was more beat up then than from anything else I ever did before. Even in my years of tournament fighting. MMA really beats the living shit out of you. My guess is most of the guys don't walk into the ring at 100% ever.
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Quite possible. Fighters probably deal with more injuries than any other athlete I can think of. When I was training with fighters a few years ago I was more beat up then than from anything else I ever did before. Even in my years of tournament fighting. MMA really beats the living shit out of you. My guess is most of the guys don't walk into the ring at 100% ever.
kinda off topic here but have you ever tried hyperbaric treatments?
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