The Hobbit

[Gravedigger]

Saw it tonight in Imax 3D 48FPS. A very good movie, found myself hooked until the end.

Great Stuff:
The game of riddles between Bilbo and Gollum.
The Cinematography was gorgeous.
The returning cast from LOTR and the call backs to it... err call forwards.

Bad Stuff:
48 FPS, holy shit it made all the sequences where they weren't just standing around talking, IE motion of anykind, seems like they hit the first fast forward button on the remote. All the action scenes looked faster than normal and that sucks because it was harder to pay attention to all the essentially good scenes. I don't know why he decided to do it, I honestly have no idea, but I'll be seeing the others in normal fps. The annoying combination of 3D glasses and the FPS was just annoying and made the movie less enjoyable.
The dwarves never dying. The running scenes alone through the goblin area were littered with so many times a dwarf or two should've died they didn't.
The first 45 minutes of the movie. You could've cut the whole part where the dwarves were bouncing dishes off their asses and the movie would've been better imo.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

. The annoying combination of 3D glasses and the FPS was just annoying and made the movie less enjoyable.

Ive noticed in my area its only available at 48FPS in 3D. I wish they had a 2D 48FPS showing. I cant stand 3D.

[Huffmeister]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Bad Stuff:
48 FPS, holy shit it made all the sequences where they weren't just standing around talking, IE motion of anykind, seems like they hit the first fast forward button on the remote. All the action scenes looked faster than normal and that sucks because it was harder to pay attention to all the essentially good scenes. I don't know why he decided to do it, I honestly have no idea, but I'll be seeing the others in normal fps. The annoying combination of 3D glasses and the FPS was just annoying and made the movie less enjoyable.

Agreed. I really enjoyed the movie itself, but I did not like the HFR. It really took away the cinematic feel and there were several scenes that felt like they were sped up. And it also made the CGI parts that much more obvious.

But I am glad that I saw in HFR so that now I know to expect next time.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Saw it tonight in Imax 3D 48FPS. A very good movie, found myself hooked until the end.

Great Stuff:
The game of riddles between Bilbo and Gollum.
The Cinematography was gorgeous.
The returning cast from LOTR and the call backs to it... err call forwards.

Bad Stuff:
48 FPS, holy shit it made all the sequences where they weren't just standing around talking, IE motion of anykind, seems like they hit the first fast forward button on the remote. All the action scenes looked faster than normal and that sucks because it was harder to pay attention to all the essentially good scenes. I don't know why he decided to do it, I honestly have no idea, but I'll be seeing the others in normal fps. The annoying combination of 3D glasses and the FPS was just annoying and made the movie less enjoyable.
The dwarves never dying. The running scenes alone through the goblin area were littered with so many times a dwarf or two should've died they didn't.
The first 45 minutes of the movie. You could've cut the whole part where the dwarves were bouncing dishes off their asses and the movie would've been better imo.

Did you read the ****ing book? Did you bitch about the dwarves not dying then as well?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Did you read the ****ing book? Did you bitch about the dwarves not dying then as well?

For me, not dying wasn't a problem, but how they didn't die was a little troublesome. It's like someone decided that if an exciting action sequence is good, an over-the-top, jarringly-anti-realistic action sequence must be better. I realize this is a fantasy movie with magic and mythical creatures and that it requires a fundamental suspension of disbelief from the get go, but it just seemed a little unnecessary to me. Not a major problem at all, but just something I think could have been better.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by patteeu

For me, not dying wasn't a problem, but how they didn't die was a little troublesome. It's like someone decided that if an exciting action sequence is good, an over-the-top, jarringly-anti-realistic action sequence must be better. I realize this is a fantasy movie with magic and mythical creatures and that it requires a fundamental suspension of disbelief from the get go, but it just seemed a little unnecessary to me. Not a major problem at all, but just something I think could have been better.

Just my opinion but i think you are touching upon one of my major beefs with action films today. Too much CGI and over the top action scenes. It looks fake and enables filmakers to have characters defy laws of gravity. Requires too much suspension of disbelief. Jackson is becoming notorious for it. King Kong was filled with scenes like this, but at least people died and got injured.

Not trying to slam Jackson, still enjoy his films for the most part.

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Just my opinion but i think you are touching upon one of my major beefs with action films today. Too much CGI and over the top action scenes. It looks fake and enables filmakers to have characters defy laws of gravity. Requires too much suspension of disbelief. Jackson is becoming notorious for it. King Kong was filled with scenes like this, but at least people died and got injured.

Not trying to slam Jackson, still enjoy his films for the most part.

You can also blame Lucas for that. The action in the Only Three Real Films was specific and plotted and empty of distraction (e.g. attack on the Death Star in "New Hope", attack of the AT-ATs on Hoth in "Empire", speederbike forest chase in "Return"). Then he made the Three Abominations--which he said he had waited "for technology to catch up to his 'vision' of the films". And apparently his "vision" includes massive CGI battles of both the hand-to-hand and spacecraft variety where you can't focus on one frickin' thing happening.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Just my opinion but i think you are touching upon one of my major beefs with action films today. Too much CGI and over the top action scenes. It looks fake and enables filmakers to have characters defy laws of gravity. Requires too much suspension of disbelief. Jackson is becoming notorious for it. King Kong was filled with scenes like this, but at least people died and got injured.

Not trying to slam Jackson, still enjoy his films for the most part.

Agreed. It's endemic to movies now, and it's annoying. I really hate it when I'm sitting there thinking "the laws of physics say 'NO' to this". I can't help myself, when filmmakers get over the top carried away, it pulls me out of the movie and back into reality by making my brain go "uhhh...no".

*sigh*

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by patteeu

For me, not dying wasn't a problem, but how they didn't die was a little troublesome. It's like someone decided that if an exciting action sequence is good, an over-the-top, jarringly-anti-realistic action sequence must be better. I realize this is a fantasy movie with magic and mythical creatures and that it requires a fundamental suspension of disbelief from the get go, but it just seemed a little unnecessary to me. Not a major problem at all, but just something I think could have been better.

I could've done without the "great slide", myself, to be honest.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Did you read the ****ing book? Did you bitch about the dwarves not dying then as well?

No I didn't read the books. Any of them, but I have a hard time seeing how that has anything to do with a criticism of the film. If that was exactly how the books had it going then yes, I think that a handful of dwarves that can beat any obstacle without dying is a little far fetched. It's a minor complaint, nothing more and nothing less. The only thing I really "bitched" about was the frame rate. That was the only thing I didn't like about the movie. But I didn't honestly see how a bridge falling down a large cave with 13 people on it wouldn't shatter but instead stay together while everything around it falls to pieces. I can say that I was entertained but thinking about it afterwards it does raise a question or two.