People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

They are most certainly NOT THE BETTER TEAM.

Not one bit.

We were the superior team...not even close today. We are more talented...and...BETTER.

and you're right...it was a bullshit mother ****ing PI call...but it should have been a no call...and a no call still resulted in a big gain...no?

Based upon what evidence? They have a true offense with a legit WR and QB. We don't have that. We perhaps have some advantages on defense, but we certainly didn't play like we did today.

And no, it should have been offensive PI due to the clear shove in the back to gain separation (to which he admitted in his post-game quotes).

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Silock

Based upon what evidence? They have a true offense with a legit WR and QB. We don't have that. We perhaps have some advantages on defense, but we certainly didn't play like we did today.

And no, it should have been offensive PI due to the clear shove in the back to gain separation (to which he admitted in his post-game quotes).

based upon what evidence?

BASED UPON WATCHING THE ****ING GAME!

lol

[Silock]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

based upon what evidence?

BASED UPON WATCHING THE ****ING GAME!

lol

You mean the game we lost? Just trying to be crystal-clear, here.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Silock

You mean the game we lost? Just trying to be crystal-clear, here.

If you watched that game and determined the Texans were a better team than the Chiefs...than you don't know what you're watching.

Fact.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

If you watched that game and determined the Texans were a better team than the Chiefs...than you don't know what you're watching.

Fact.

Despite the fact that they shut down our offense when they had to? Our defense didn't do that.

Despite the fact that they put up points when they had to? Our offense didn't do that.

What makes the Chiefs a better team than the Texans?

They have a better QB and WRs (although, admittedly not even close to us on RBs). They have a balanced offensive attack. They've won more games than we have over the course of the season.

I'm just not seeing where the Chiefs are clearly better than the Texans, especially when they just beat us.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Silock

Despite the fact that they shut down our offense when they had to? Our defense didn't do that.

Despite the fact that they put up points when they had to? Our offense didn't do that.

What makes the Chiefs a better team than the Texans?

They have a better QB and WRs (although, admittedly not even close to us on RBs). They have a balanced offensive attack. They've won more games than we have over the course of the season.

I'm just not seeing where the Chiefs are clearly better than the Texans, especially when they just beat us.

We controlled the entire game...the entire time...

We didn't make the plays at the end...

That was it.

Play this game 10 times, we win 7.5.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

We controlled the entire game...the entire time...

We didn't make the plays at the end...

That was it.

Play this game 10 times, we win 7.5.

We obviously didn't control the ENTIRE game. If we were THAT in control, we wouldn't have needed a defensive stop, then an offensive (AT LEAST) first down, then another defensive stop to win the game.

Play this game 100 times, we win 25. Do we really want to play THAT game, Hootie? Bear in mind, I'm simply trying to have a conversation with you in this thread, not hate on you.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

We controlled the entire game...the entire time...

We didn't make the plays at the end...

That was it.

Play this game 10 times, we win 7.5.

Play this game once, we lost once.

If we controlled the entire game, it shouldn't have been close.

Our offense looked a lot better than it has for a while. But our defense legitimately gave up 34 points.

A team in control doesn't give up that many points.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

We controlled the entire game...the entire time...

We didn't make the plays at the end...

That was it.

Play this game 10 times, we win 7.5.

I think it is just the opposite. I think we play them on the road 10 times and we will lose 7 or 8.

Cassel won't play as well as he did today consistently.

They have a good run defense. We did better today running than I expected to do, perhaps because of Cassel's effectiveness.

Our defense had its worst day of the season, but I don't think they played badly. I think the Texans' multidimensional offense is too much for our defense at this stage of its development, especially in a road game. The D could have tackled better and we would have won today, due to the above average offensive day. But on another day we would tackle better, the Texan's would get their 24 points and we'd struggle to break 20.

[Rasputin]

Is Cassel the guy you want in the playoffs? That's the question that begs to be asked. I don't think he can get us past the next level in the playoffs when it really counts. Super Bowl be damned with this guy. We have tools to be a good team this year but next year we should be primed for contintion to be serious continders and still have QB issues. I want us to draft a QB for the prospect of being a continder year in and year out for the long hall. Cassel is just another rehash QB that will show flashes at times then backpedle other times. He had a good outing against a piss poor passing defense, good for him. He is showing improvement fine, I'm not going to crown his ass unless he wins big in the playoffs damn it.

This team has a ways to go. Our schedule gets easier from here and will help us, but lets not get over hyped eather for that. We got to win our games out right, and we can't count on the rest of the division to lose every game. I'm looking forward to a solid season of improvement & take over the division but more than that isn't in this years plans I'm afraid. Next year watch out. Still asking for a QB that we draft and mold into a gem at QB. Yea more growing pains i'm sure, but the reward will be so sweet if we do it right. The team can carry a young QB like it is carrying a 28 yo back up this year. Cassel didn't win us this game at the end. I'm not blaming him for the loss but he didn't win it for us.