Chiefs Cassel Chronicles: The Conclusion - Page 12

Mecca · 08-01-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

who gets pissed? not me. i just want to actually enjoy the season. good or bad i still enjoy watching the team that i love. i may not realize it that day or the next but i always do within a couple of days

There are going to be people that think the Chiefs are going to win 8-10 games that lose their ****ing minds on here and want Tyler Thigpen to play.

I don't expect Cassel to put up a great year which has a lot to do with the lack of talent the Chiefs have. But some people won't be forgiving the first year Trent Green was here people hated him.

**J Diddy** · 08-01-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Uh no, saying a guy has to do it more than once and saying career are not the same thing.

Did I list him in the top 10 no I did not. I fully suspect he'll be back there after the year though.

Carson Palmer has played at a higher level for a longer period of consistently than Cassel he is coming off an injury so I list him at 10-15, I have Cassel in that range for only being a 1 year starter.

Being realistic is not being negative, no one should build their hopes to stupid levels so they can be all pissed off when it doesn't happen.

Neither should they place their expectations unreasonably low so as to never be excited about potential.

**SAUTO** · 08-01-2009, 12:54 PM

and mecca you are negative about almost everything the team does.

Mecca · 08-01-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

and mecca you are negative about almost everything the team does.

Honest opinion and being negative are not the same, just because I don't flip my opinion on players because they end up on the Chiefs doesn't make me negative.

And anyway the entire time you've posted here the Chiefs have been an awful team what do you want, me to say all the scrubs are good?

Pioli Zombie · 08-01-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

and mecca you are negative about almost everything the team does.

I haven't exactly agreed with much Mecca has said. But one area we do agree on.

At 2-14 the Chiefs sucked. And with their talent level and schedule 5-11 would be a great season. Give it time people. If you are expecting 8-8 this year or better you are setting yourselves up.
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**SAUTO** · 08-01-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

I haven't exactly agreed with much Mecca has said. But one area we do agree on.

At 2-14 the Chiefs sucked. And with their talent level and schedule 5-11 would be a great season. Give it time people. If you are expecting 8-8 this year or better you are setting yourselves up.
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i for one have never put any expected win total out there for this season, not seriously at least

KCBOSS1 · 08-01-2009, 01:04 PM

I had no idea that Jason watched all of the Patriot games...that's impressive to me. I'm sure other guys did the same. I don't have that much exposure to Cassel. I agree with him in being positive, totally. I do hope that fans will give him at least a give him a while (like a few seasons) to work in the kinks out before calling for Thigpen. The same goes for Haley and Pioli. This is a total revamping. We gotta give space for them to built continuity.

Mecca · 08-01-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

I had no idea that Jason watched all of the Patriot games...that's impressive to me. I'm sure other guys did the same. I don't have that much exposure to Cassel. I agree with him in being positive, totally. I do hope that fans will give him at least a give him a while (like a few seasons) to work in the kinks out before calling for Thigpen. The same goes for Haley and Pioli. This is a total revamping. We gotta give space for them to built continuity.

LOL, I give it a couple of games since talk radio is all about calling the Chiefs a contender and saying 8 wins or they'll be disappointed.

He is 27 years old so he needs to develop a hell of a lot faster than a draft pick though.

**SAUTO** · 08-01-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

I had no idea that Jason watched all of the Patriot games...that's impressive to me. I'm sure other guys did the same. I don't have that much exposure to Cassel. I agree with him in being positive, totally. I do hope that fans will give him at least a give him a while (like a few seasons) to work in the kinks out before calling for Thigpen. The same goes for Haley and Pioli. This is a total revamping. We gotta give space for them to built continuity.

i did. after we traded for him i wanted to know and see for myself just what exactly we were getting. i felt better after actually watching him. people here act as though he can throw 20 yards max. that couldnt be further from the truth. and you can ask anyone that actually watched the games and throughout the beginning to middle of the season moss dogged it. when it appeared that MAYBE they would have a shot he played better. still even then he was lazy on some routes that werent supposed to go his was. Which is funny because mecca has said he was a one read guy, well if that was true and the play was designed away from moss and moss wasnt running full speed, when cassel went through his progressions and threw the ball to moss wouldnt the ball be overthrown? you know cassel is expecting one speed+ moss is running slower= overthrown ball right? watch the games you will see it.

KCBOSS1 · 08-01-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i did. after we traded for him i wanted to know and see for myself just what exactly we were getting. i felt better after actually watching him. people here act as though he can throw 20 yards max. that couldnt be further from the truth. and you can ask anyone that actually watched the games and throughout the beginning to middle of the season moss dogged it. when it appeared that MAYBE they would have a shot he played better. still even then he was lazy on some routes that werent supposed to go his was. Which is funny because mecca has said he was a one read guy, well if that was true and the play was designed away from moss and moss wasnt running full speed, when cassel went through his progressions and threw the ball to moss wouldnt the ball be overthrown? you know cassel is expecting one speed+ moss is running slower= overthrown ball right? watch the games you will see it.

No dude...I'll take your word for it. I got a business and 4 kids and need guys to give me the briefing. I'm glad that you took the time to watch it, that helps me some. He has to have talent. You don't go to USC now if you don't. They have the pick of the litter. The Patriots know that enough to draft a backup, that never started in college. That's bizarre to me.

**SAUTO** · 08-01-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

No dude...I'll take your word for it. I got a business and 4 kids and need guys to give me the briefing. I'm glad that you took the time to watch it, that helps me some. He has to have talent. You don't go to USC now if you don't. They have the pick of the litter. The Patriots know that enough to draft a backup, that never started in college. That's bizarre to me.

i have a business and 3 kids of my own. but by the way some of these guys were talking about him i HAD to find out for myself. i spent a lot of time at night after the kids went to bed to watch that stuff

Mecca · 08-01-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

No dude...I'll take your word for it. I got a business and 4 kids and need guys to give me the briefing. I'm glad that you took the time to watch it, that helps me some. He has to have talent. You don't go to USC now if you don't. They have the pick of the litter. The Patriots know that enough to draft a backup, that never started in college. That's bizarre to me.

Now Cassel committed to USC before the run of top talent. He was something like the 8th or 10th QB in recruiting and a top 100 player. He got beat out by Leinart who was only a 3 star guy.

I believe he was in Carroll's first recruiting class but he committed to SC before his senior year so he was I believe recruited before Carroll was hired.

**SAUTO** · 08-01-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Now Cassel committed to USC before the run of top talent. He was something like the 8th or 10th QB in recruiting and a top 100 player. He got beat out by Leinart who was only a 3 star guy.

I believe he was in Carroll's first recruiting class but he committed to SC before his senior year so he was I believe recruited before Carroll was hired.

see you are still trying to put him down for some reason. why else say what you just said?

Mecca · 08-01-2009, 02:02 PM

If you don't think people are gonna flip the **** out early in the year considering what the schedule is, you don't know this forum very well.

**SAUTO** · 08-01-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you don't think people are gonna flip the **** out early in the year considering what the schedule is, you don't know this forum very well.

you act as though the schedule automatically means losses. not true. last year i said before the season we would give the pats all they wanted( actually i said we would beat them) you and many others made fun of me, what happened? we just about got em. should have actually. THATS WHY THEY PLAY THE GAME!!!

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