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Old 10-17-2013, 01:43 PM   #1
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Well you are cherry picking here but to answer your question:

Rob Gronkowski and Dunlap. You could make a case for several others like Ben Tate since we don't have a back up to Jamaal Charles.
I just picked a draft that guys had a chance to establish themselves a bit. 2010 was the first and only one that I've looked at.

Gronk is the only guys you can say for sure would offer more than Flowers at this point. No way on Dunlap and a backup RB or a top 10 CB? Serious?
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:43 PM   #2
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Which guys below make the team better than Flowers?


Rodger Saffold
Chris Cook
Dexter McCluster
Nate Allen
TJ Ward
Arrelious Benn
Koa Misi
Torrell Troup

Rob Gronkowski
Sergio Kindle
Lamarr Houston
Zane Beadles
Linval Joseph

Daryl Washington
Jimmy Clausen
Taylor Mays
Javier Arenas
Toby Gerhart
Jason Worilds
Jermaine Cunningham

Carlos Dunlap
Sean Lee
Mike Neal
Terrence Cody
Ben Tate
Montario Hardesty
Golden Tate
Vladimir Ducasse
Patrick Angerer
Charles Brown
I don't know if any of these guys make the team much better.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:47 PM   #3
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I don't know if any of these guys make the team much better.
Yeah, the point was you have about a 10% chance at best of finding a comparable player. A bird in the hand and all that jazz.

Just looked at 09. It's about the same. 3-4 guys that catch your eye and McCoy is the Gronk of that class.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:41 AM   #4
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:45 AM   #5
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:22 AM   #6
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He wouldn't garner a 2nd round pick in return. He's not that valuable.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:27 AM   #7
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He won't bring a 2. If he woudl, yeah, make the move.

I'm hoping he can be a really good slot CB.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:43 AM   #8
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He won't bring a 2. If he woudl, yeah, make the move.

I'm hoping he can be a really good slot CB.
Getting a 2 plus shedding his contract? Dorsey would fall over laughing at such good fortune.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:58 AM   #9
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If you could get a second round pick? Maybe, but that ain't happening. I'd keep him. He's a talented CB (not a shutdown corner, but not many are), and he's pretty damned good when healthy.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:02 AM   #10
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Name the slot corners in the NFL for whom you would trade a second round pick if we had one and Flowers had a career ending injury.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #11
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If this group of guys continue to play like this for the balance of the year and into to playoffs proving they are truly an elite D, which I think they will. You keep as many of the front line guys as you can.

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Old 10-17-2013, 10:39 AM   #12
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For a 2nd round pick? We've seen the defense play just as good if not better without him.

If Cooper continues to play like he has been you have him on a 4 year 7th round pick deal.

You have to pay Justin Houston. I wouldn't be surprised to see Charles hold out given the way he's being used and his current bargain contract.

IIRC Berrys contract will be up in a few years too.

The defense is set the offense needs a lot of improvement obviously. An extra pick would help. I would make that trade.

Nope. And honestly I don't understand why this is even a question. The way to build your team is through the draft. Why the Chiefs seem to think that trading or not signing our good players away is a good idea, I will never understand. Tong G., Jared Allen and Brandon Carr should have never been allowed to leave.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:11 AM   #13
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Nope. And honestly I don't understand why this is even a question. The way to build your team is through the draft. Why the Chiefs seem to think that trading or not signing our good players away is a good idea, I will never understand. Tong G., Jared Allen and Brandon Carr should have never been allowed to leave.
Uh...

Jared Allen became Branden Albert and Jamaal Charles.

Trading players for picks is a ways of building through the draft.

That said, Flowers is only 27. Why trade him for a second round pick we'd have to use on a slot corner? It makes no sense.

I'd rather Eric Fisher for a bag of hog jizz.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:16 AM   #14
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Trading for Axl Smith/Trading Flowers away:

Which idea is the dumbest this season? You make the call.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:18 AM   #15
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Which idea is the dumbest this season? You make the call.
Suggesting trading Flowers should be equal to asking to have yer' scrote kicked before every home game at the gate...
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