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Mr_Tomahawk · 10-24-2012, 11:53 AM

Who will be the Chiefs starting quarterback in 2013?

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/chiefs...erback-in-2013

After making the decision to name Brady Quinn as the starting quarterback for the rest of the season I believe there's a much better chance the Chiefs draft a quarterback in the first round of the 2013 NFL draft. I know that it's just October and we have 10 games left in the season but it's where we're at right now in regards to the position.

As we sit here today I believe there are five possibilities as to who will be under center for the Chiefs when we take the field in 2013. It's not to assume the team will continue to lose and get a top pick, but even winning a handful of games I would still think doing whatever is needed to grab one of the top quarterbacks in the draft would be a priority.

#1. Matt Cassel

I just riled up 1,276 people just 141 words into this article. In full disclosure I did support Matt Cassel from the beginning and I even thought he would have a great season this year with all of the moves the Chiefs made in the off-season. Even those who weren't fans of Cassel could not have seen this kind of season coming and if you say you did see this coming, well then, I just don't believe you. To expect his worst season in a Chiefs uniform after the team made upgrades doesn't make sense to me. But here we are and a change was needed, and made.

#2. Brady Quinn

What are the chances that Quinn just comes out and earns a new contract and takes over as the starting quarterback for the Chiefs for the next few seasons? Probably not very likely although I know there are some Kool-Aid drinkers out there that believe this might happen. Calm down and don't operate a vehicle when you're hopped up on that stuff because it's got to be strong. (Sorry Joel)

Now we're getting into what I would call the 'more likely territory'. Considering I am not someone who follows college football as closely as others I brought in SB Nation's draft expert Dan Kadar (@MockingTheDraft) to help break down the top three quarterbacks in the 2013 draft as we sit here today. Here's what he had to say about each of these quarterbacks.

#3 Tyler Wilson - 6'3 - 220lbs - Arkansas

Strengths: The first thing that should be note about Wilson is his toughness. He's the kind of quarterback who will play through an injury. He stands tall in the pocket when there's pressure surrounding him. Possesses a strong arm. Looks to have good pocket presence to feel blind side pressure.

Weaknesses: Wilson's toughness is admirable, but it can get him in trouble. He seems to always have a small injury. Sometimes he needs to just get rid of the ball instead of staying in the pocket, throwing and being hit hard. Will sometimes put the ball in bad spots. Likes to move around in the pocket, but it leads to him throwing off balance a lot. Doesn't put a lot of touch on short throws. Full-time starter for just two seasons.

#4 Matt Barkley - 6'2 - 230lbs - USC

Strengths: By in large, Barkley is an excellent intangibles quarterback. He's often credited for his leadership. He stuck around at a previously sanctioned USC when he could have been a first-round pick this year. His numbers aren't at last season's pace, but he's still having a good year and completing almost 66 percent of his throws. He's coming out of a pro-style offense that would make him well-suited for a West Coast scheme. He's a four-year starter. I have him so highly rated because he gets excellent ball placement. He really improved there this season compared to last. He can work the whole field.

Weaknesses: Size has always been a key issue with Barkley. He's listed at 6-foot-2, but most expect him to officially measure shorter. There are also issues with his arm strength, though that may be more of a product of the USC scheme. But most of Barkley's throws are 15 yards or less, with his wide receivers getting a lot of yards after catch. He also benefits from having maybe the best wide receiver group in the nation.

#5 - Geno Smith - 6'3 - 214 lbs - West Virginia

Strengths: Smith is completing an extremely high percentage of his passes this season because he figured out how to hit deep out passes. His precision on those throws has been impressive. He's said he doesn't like to use it, but Smith is a good athlete to elude pressure. He has the arm strength to hit everywhere on the field. Seems to always hit receivers in stride so they can make a play after the catch.

Weaknesses: Evaluators will have to determine how much the fast-paced offense is benefiting Smith and whether or not it will translate to the NFL. The Patriots have taken some of the WVU principles and used them in their two-minute offense, so maybe it can work well in the pros. Until Brandon Weeden, most quarterbacks from the Dana Holgorsen scheme haven't translated well, and it's even early to be optimistic about Weeden. Plays in a shotgun, so there will be questions about his footwork on drop backs. Doesn't have to go through a lot of route reads. Smith has a slight frame as well, so he may not have the body like Barkley to take hits.

Dan summed up his thoughts on the three quarterbacks.

Right now, I have Barkley and Smith as first-round picks.Wilson probably late second. Obviously that's a fluid thing and will be throughout the season and during the Senior Bowl process. None of these players is an Andrew Luck. Barkley and Smith are probably closer to Sam Bradford – possibly a very good player but with questions. Wilson may need more development time to get rid of his bad tendencies.

Although all of these players still have question marks the good news is that each of them still have big games ahead of them this season. Matt Barkley still has to play Oregon and Notre Dame, Tyler Wilson has South Carolina, Mississippi State and LSU left to play, and Geno Smith still has a huge game against Oklahoma. Those games will tell us a lot about how these guys will separate themselves.

What do you say AP?

FlaChief58 · 10-24-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BourbonMan

Do a trade with the Patriots and bring in Ryan Mallett.

You just go **** off & die

**DeezNutz** · 10-24-2012, 02:46 PM

Jones is not even close to being as bad of a prospect as he'd made out to be on this board.

DJ's left nut · 10-24-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Jones is not even close to being as bad of a prospect as he'd made out to be on this board.

Kyle Boller.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-24-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Meh.

I think Geno Smith has more talent and throws a better ball. I think Geno has a much higher ceiling.

But I think Geno also has more obstacles to over come when entering the NFL.

Fair enough. No reerun.

Titty Meat · 10-24-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Jones is not even close to being as bad of a prospect as he'd made out to be on this board.

The guy is inconsistent and hasn't gotten much better since his Soph. year. Even OU fans hate him. I would take him in the 3rd or 4th round to be the Kirk Cousins to our Geno Smith/Matt Barkley.

**RealSNR** · 10-24-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Jones is not even close to being as bad of a prospect as he'd made out to be on this board.

If you are a team without a franchise QB and he's the best guy available, you take him.

That's as far as I'll go with him. I would definitely consider drafting him with a 3rd if I were a team like San Francisco, Houston, or New Orleans. But for us, we don't need any more Jones or Stanzis or Cousins or Assweilers or Foles. No more mid-round QB prospects. Draft the REAL thing, then you can adjust your bench as needed.

O.city · 10-24-2012, 03:02 PM

I would be fine taking geno or Barkley in the first and bray or jones in the third if they were around

RustShack · 10-24-2012, 03:07 PM

Does anyone remember what the Bill Parcells guideline to drafting a QB was? I'm guessing that Barkley fits that mold the best and thats who Pioli will want.

I personally prefer Geno though. I also think we enter next season with Brady Quinn as the starter, but we will have a first round QB waiting behind him and likely starting over Quinn by the end of the year.

EDIT- Found it

His rules are as follows:

1. The quarterback must be a senior. . .because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback
2. He must be a graduate. . .because you want somebody that takes their responsibilities seriously.
3. He must be a three-year starter. . .because you want to make sure his success wasn't a fluke and to know that he has been "the guy" for a significant period of time.
4. He must have 23 wins. . .because big numbers don't mean a whole lot if you don't win.

splatbass · 10-24-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Jim Zorn.

I'm pretty sure he is still the best QB currently working for the Chiefs.....

saphojunkie · 10-24-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Does anyone remember what the Bill Parcells guideline to drafting a QB was? I'm guessing that Barkley fits that mold the best and thats who Pioli will want.

I personally prefer Geno though. I also think we enter next season with Brady Quinn as the starter, but we will have a first round QB waiting behind him and likely starting over Quinn by the end of the year.

EDIT- Found it

His rules are as follows:

1. The quarterback must be a senior. . .because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback No Aaron Rodgers
2. He must be a graduate. . .because you want somebody that takes their responsibilities seriously. No Andrew Luck
3. He must be a three-year starter. . .because you want to make sure his success wasn't a fluke and to know that he has been "the guy" for a significant period of time. No Tom Brady
4. He must have 23 wins. . .because big numbers don't mean a whole lot if you don't win. No Kurt Warner

I just realized! Brady Quinn fits all of these criteria! Hooray!

B_Ambuehl · 10-24-2012, 04:04 PM

Stay away from the white statues. In this day and age you need a mobile QB.

Mr_Tomahawk · 10-24-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Stay away from the white statues. In this day and age you need a mobile QB.

Mannings?

Sorter · 10-24-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Stay away from the white statues. In this day and age you need a mobile QB.

So black statues are fine? Hispanic?

Chief Roundup · 10-24-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I just realized! Brady Quinn fits all of these criteria! Hooray!

Andrew Luck did graduate.

10-24-2012, 11:53 AM
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $2970526	Who will be the Chiefs starting quarterback in 2013? Who will be the Chiefs starting quarterback in 2013? http://www.arrowheadpride.com/chiefs...erback-in-2013 After making the decision to name Brady Quinn as the starting quarterback for the rest of the season I believe there's a much better chance the Chiefs draft a quarterback in the first round of the 2013 NFL draft. I know that it's just October and we have 10 games left in the season but it's where we're at right now in regards to the position. As we sit here today I believe there are five possibilities as to who will be under center for the Chiefs when we take the field in 2013. It's not to assume the team will continue to lose and get a top pick, but even winning a handful of games I would still think doing whatever is needed to grab one of the top quarterbacks in the draft would be a priority. #1. Matt Cassel I just riled up 1,276 people just 141 words into this article. In full disclosure I did support Matt Cassel from the beginning and I even thought he would have a great season this year with all of the moves the Chiefs made in the off-season. Even those who weren't fans of Cassel could not have seen this kind of season coming and if you say you did see this coming, well then, I just don't believe you. To expect his worst season in a Chiefs uniform after the team made upgrades doesn't make sense to me. But here we are and a change was needed, and made. #2. Brady Quinn What are the chances that Quinn just comes out and earns a new contract and takes over as the starting quarterback for the Chiefs for the next few seasons? Probably not very likely although I know there are some Kool-Aid drinkers out there that believe this might happen. Calm down and don't operate a vehicle when you're hopped up on that stuff because it's got to be strong. (Sorry Joel) Now we're getting into what I would call the 'more likely territory'. Considering I am not someone who follows college football as closely as others I brought in SB Nation's draft expert Dan Kadar (@MockingTheDraft) to help break down the top three quarterbacks in the 2013 draft as we sit here today. Here's what he had to say about each of these quarterbacks. #3 Tyler Wilson - 6'3 - 220lbs - Arkansas Strengths: The first thing that should be note about Wilson is his toughness. He's the kind of quarterback who will play through an injury. He stands tall in the pocket when there's pressure surrounding him. Possesses a strong arm. Looks to have good pocket presence to feel blind side pressure. Weaknesses: Wilson's toughness is admirable, but it can get him in trouble. He seems to always have a small injury. Sometimes he needs to just get rid of the ball instead of staying in the pocket, throwing and being hit hard. Will sometimes put the ball in bad spots. Likes to move around in the pocket, but it leads to him throwing off balance a lot. Doesn't put a lot of touch on short throws. Full-time starter for just two seasons. #4 Matt Barkley - 6'2 - 230lbs - USC Strengths: By in large, Barkley is an excellent intangibles quarterback. He's often credited for his leadership. He stuck around at a previously sanctioned USC when he could have been a first-round pick this year. His numbers aren't at last season's pace, but he's still having a good year and completing almost 66 percent of his throws. He's coming out of a pro-style offense that would make him well-suited for a West Coast scheme. He's a four-year starter. I have him so highly rated because he gets excellent ball placement. He really improved there this season compared to last. He can work the whole field. Weaknesses: Size has always been a key issue with Barkley. He's listed at 6-foot-2, but most expect him to officially measure shorter. There are also issues with his arm strength, though that may be more of a product of the USC scheme. But most of Barkley's throws are 15 yards or less, with his wide receivers getting a lot of yards after catch. He also benefits from having maybe the best wide receiver group in the nation. #5 - Geno Smith - 6'3 - 214 lbs - West Virginia Strengths: Smith is completing an extremely high percentage of his passes this season because he figured out how to hit deep out passes. His precision on those throws has been impressive. He's said he doesn't like to use it, but Smith is a good athlete to elude pressure. He has the arm strength to hit everywhere on the field. Seems to always hit receivers in stride so they can make a play after the catch. Weaknesses: Evaluators will have to determine how much the fast-paced offense is benefiting Smith and whether or not it will translate to the NFL. The Patriots have taken some of the WVU principles and used them in their two-minute offense, so maybe it can work well in the pros. Until Brandon Weeden, most quarterbacks from the Dana Holgorsen scheme haven't translated well, and it's even early to be optimistic about Weeden. Plays in a shotgun, so there will be questions about his footwork on drop backs. Doesn't have to go through a lot of route reads. Smith has a slight frame as well, so he may not have the body like Barkley to take hits. Dan summed up his thoughts on the three quarterbacks. Right now, I have Barkley and Smith as first-round picks.Wilson probably late second. Obviously that's a fluid thing and will be throughout the season and during the Senior Bowl process. None of these players is an Andrew Luck. Barkley and Smith are probably closer to Sam Bradford – possibly a very good player but with questions. Wilson may need more development time to get rid of his bad tendencies. Although all of these players still have question marks the good news is that each of them still have big games ahead of them this season. Matt Barkley still has to play Oregon and Notre Dame, Tyler Wilson has South Carolina, Mississippi State and LSU left to play, and Geno Smith still has a huge game against Oklahoma. Those games will tell us a lot about how these guys will separate themselves. What do you say AP?
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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4636954	Does anyone remember what the Bill Parcells guideline to drafting a QB was? I'm guessing that Barkley fits that mold the best and thats who Pioli will want. I personally prefer Geno though. I also think we enter next season with Brady Quinn as the starter, but we will have a first round QB waiting behind him and likely starting over Quinn by the end of the year. EDIT- Found it His rules are as follows: 1. The quarterback must be a senior. . .because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback 2. He must be a graduate. . .because you want somebody that takes their responsibilities seriously. 3. He must be a three-year starter. . .because you want to make sure his success wasn't a fluke and to know that he has been "the guy" for a significant period of time. 4. He must have 23 wins. . .because big numbers don't mean a whole lot if you don't win. __________________
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