****Official Golf Thread****

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The original Bushwood thread is overflowing like Craig Stadler's FUPA.

Use this thread to discuss tournaments, swing thoughts, equipment, and golf deals.

I thought we could also use the OP to create a WITB for ChiefsPlanet members. I'll list a poster's name and put their sticks in a spoiler tag, so you can see what everyone is carrying.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by srvy

Anyone played Winterstone off 291 on top the old limestone quarries near sugar creek? I have worked near there looks like pretty nice course and if your playing around 4 pm you get a rumble from underground dynamite detonation blasting out rock face.

I worked a tournament there two years ago, but have never played it.

[philfree]

I have a chance to play A course in Newton, Ks called Sand Creek Station. It looks killer from their website. Anybody have any info on that? Or I could do Willowbend In Wichita.

http://www.sandcreekgolfclub.com/

[Bowser]

Oh shit. Lefty, Lefty, Lefty.....


Phil Mickelson wired millions of dollars to a middleman, who then laundered that money as part of "an illegal gambling operation which accepted and placed bets on sporting events," according to a report from ESPN's Outside the Lines.


According to the report, Mickelson transferred the money to 56-year-old Greg Silveira of La Quinta, Calif., who has pleaded guilty to three federal counts of money laundering as part of a plea deal. Silveira pled guilty to laundering $2.75 million that he says belonged to Mickelson, according to the report.


The plea deal centers around three wire transfers from March 2010 to February 2013 connected to Silveira. In 2010, Silveira first accepted a $2.75 million wire transfer into a Wells Fargo Bank account from a "gambling client," identified in the report as Mickelson. That money was then transferred in two installments – first $2.475 million, then $275,000 – into another of Silveira's bank accounts. Finally, Silveira transferred $2.475 million into another account he controlled with JP Morgan Chase Bank. Those transfers constitute money laundering.

Silveira will be sentenced on Oct. 5 and could face up to 60 years in prison, though a much shorter sentence is expected.


Federal prosecutors, Silveira's lawyer, Mickelson and his attorneys, as well the PGA Tour all declined to comment on the case.

Mickelson is golf's highest paid player, taking in an estimated $51 million in 2014 from both on-course prize money and endorsements with companies including Callaway Golf, Barclays, KPMG, Exxon Mobil, Rolex and Amgen. He is known to routinely play in big-money side games on the PGA Tour. He is also remembered for his piece of a preseason bet on the Baltimore Ravens as a 22-to-1 shot to win the Super Bowl before the 2000 season. They won their first Super Bowl that year in a 34-7 romp of the New York Giants.

In 2014, Mickelson's name surfaced in a federal investigation related to two instances of potential insider trading involving billionaire investor Carl Icahn and legendary sports gambler Billy Walters. Mickelson was cleared in one of those cases, but it's unclear if the second investigation is still ongoing.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-d...4645-golf.html

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Oh shit. Lefty, Lefty, Lefty.....


Phil Mickelson wired millions of dollars to a middleman, who then laundered that money as part of "an illegal gambling operation which accepted and placed bets on sporting events," according to a report from ESPN's Outside the Lines.


According to the report, Mickelson transferred the money to 56-year-old Greg Silveira of La Quinta, Calif., who has pleaded guilty to three federal counts of money laundering as part of a plea deal. Silveira pled guilty to laundering $2.75 million that he says belonged to Mickelson, according to the report.


The plea deal centers around three wire transfers from March 2010 to February 2013 connected to Silveira. In 2010, Silveira first accepted a $2.75 million wire transfer into a Wells Fargo Bank account from a "gambling client," identified in the report as Mickelson. That money was then transferred in two installments – first $2.475 million, then $275,000 – into another of Silveira's bank accounts. Finally, Silveira transferred $2.475 million into another account he controlled with JP Morgan Chase Bank. Those transfers constitute money laundering.

Silveira will be sentenced on Oct. 5 and could face up to 60 years in prison, though a much shorter sentence is expected.


Federal prosecutors, Silveira's lawyer, Mickelson and his attorneys, as well the PGA Tour all declined to comment on the case.

Mickelson is golf's highest paid player, taking in an estimated $51 million in 2014 from both on-course prize money and endorsements with companies including Callaway Golf, Barclays, KPMG, Exxon Mobil, Rolex and Amgen. He is known to routinely play in big-money side games on the PGA Tour. He is also remembered for his piece of a preseason bet on the Baltimore Ravens as a 22-to-1 shot to win the Super Bowl before the 2000 season. They won their first Super Bowl that year in a 34-7 romp of the New York Giants.

In 2014, Mickelson's name surfaced in a federal investigation related to two instances of potential insider trading involving billionaire investor Carl Icahn and legendary sports gambler Billy Walters. Mickelson was cleared in one of those cases, but it's unclear if the second investigation is still ongoing.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-d...4645-golf.html

I'll never understand how theses guys can be so stupid. You've got it made in life with more money than you can spend so let's go do some illegal shit and jeopardize everything you've ever done. It's jackass. I'm far from rich but I have enough that I want to do my business as legal as possible because I actually have something to lose.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by philfree

I'll never understand how theses guys can be so stupid. You've got it made in life with more money than you can spend so let's go do some illegal shit and jeopardize everything you've ever done. It's jackass. I'm far from rich but I have enough that I want to do my business as legal as possible because I actually have something to lose.

Yup..

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by philfree

I'll never understand how theses guys can be so stupid. You've got it made in life with more money than you can spend so let's go do some illegal shit and jeopardize everything you've ever done. It's jackass. I'm far from rich but I have enough that I want to do my business as legal as possible because I actually have something to lose.

It's recklessness. He's reckless on the golf course and reckless off of it.

I believe that on his first date with his wife he took her up in a plane and put it in an intentional stall. Phil is an addict. He's addicted to action. Tiger, it seems, is addicted to strange pussy.

McIlroy called off his engagement with Wozniacky because he was banging some girl on a glass table and it broke, cutting the shit out of his arms. As a result, he played the text tournament, in warm weather, in full sleeves.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's recklessness. He's reckless on the golf course and reckless off of it.

I believe that on his first date with his wife he took her up in a plane and put it in an intentional stall. Phil is an addict. He's addicted to action. Tiger, it seems, is addicted to strange pussy.

McIlroy called off his engagement with Wozniacky because he was banging some girl on a glass table and it broke, cutting the shit out of his arms. As a result, he played the text tournament, in warm weather, in full sleeves.

Hey man, I have nothing against Phil Mickelson or if he has a gambling problem ... nothing wrong with that If he wants to gamble his money, he should be able to gamble his money.

...but what do Tiger and Rory have to do with this? You are just trying to defend your boy, I guess.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Hey man, I have nothing against Phil Mickelson or if he has a gambling problem ... nothing wrong with that If he wants to gamble his money, he should be able to gamble his money.

...but what do Tiger and Rory have to do with this? You are just trying to defend your boy, I guess.

I'm not thinking he's defending anybody, I took it as a suggestion of a trend with a large number of the filthy rich.

[Hootie]

well hell, think about it

Mickelson is SO GOOD at golf, I bet the only thrill he gets is when he's either playing for a major, or playing for BIG $$$

It's like you or me playing in a free fantasy league or a free poker tourney with no prize money ... who cares, right?

Seriously ... if Phil is getting into trouble for gambling through a bookie or what not, who cares?

[Hootie]

In 5 years I hope to god sports betting is legal, everywhere (even in stadiums) and that online ****ing poker is legal again, too

my life would improve

[OnTheWarpath15]

He's not under investigation and not being charged. Federal gambling laws are typically enforced on large gambling operations and not on individual bettors.

The only way Mickelson could have been charged is if he was complicit in the laundering/concealment of his funds - meaning there would have to be email, phone conversations, etc as proof.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

well hell, think about it

Mickelson is SO GOOD at golf, I bet the only thrill he gets is when he's either playing for a major, or playing for BIG $$$

It's like you or me playing in a free fantasy league or a free poker tourney with no prize money ... who cares, right?

Seriously ... if Phil is getting into trouble for gambling through a bookie or what not, who cares?

I don't care, I just think they should care more. Have the wife do it....

Then again, when it comes to gambling, I'd rather sit on the hot vinyl seats of a '75 Dodge Dart Sport that's been sitting in the hot summer sun on a 105 degree day than gamble. Like most card and board games, gambling isn't anything I'll ever get "caught" doing! Now, doing some hot Golf groupie chicks on a coffee table (prolly not glass!), yeah that might happen if I was as good at Golf as Rory or Tiger!

[Hootie]

ask Wayne Gretzky about letting your wife gamble for you

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

ask Wayne Gretzky about letting your wife gamble for you

Like I said, sitting on black vinyl seats in a closed-up '75 Dodge Dart Sport in 100+degree sunny heat, in the DIRECT sun, with a Speedo on, is a billion times more fun than gambling, so I'll not be bothering Sir Wayne about such matters.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by philfree

I have a chance to play A course in Newton, Ks called Sand Creek Station. It looks killer from their website. Anybody have any info on that? Or I could do Willowbend In Wichita.

http://www.sandcreekgolfclub.com/

I've played it a half dozen times. It's super cheap to play, and a well maintained course - especially for the price. I wouldn't make a special trip that way just to play SCS, but if you are in the area, it's worth the time to check it out.