Dan Pompei gives the Chiefs an A

[htismaqe]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3566742?GT1=6335

Kansas City Chiefs: A

Linebacker Derrick Johnson was a tremendous value. The Chiefs did a nice job filling needs, and they got a Pro Bowl corner, Patrick Surtain, for their second-round pick.

[Skip Towne]

I'd give it a B till I can see them play.

[1punkyQB]

Khari Long was USA Today's sleeper pick at DE, FWIW. Not bad at that point. Bottom of page. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...-linemen_x.htm

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Beyond Johnson, our draft was pretty mediocre.

Colquitt was the best punter available in the draft, but it's still using a 3rd round pick on a punter.

Thorpe was good value in the 4th, with a ton of upside. But he's also a question mark. If he doesn't return to his '03 form, he won't be worth much in the end.

Grigsby sounds like he could give us ST help right away, but I think a lot of Chiefs fans have put this guy on a bit of a pedestal due to his personality in post draft interviews. I'm sure there are pundits that believe he would have been available with our later 5th, or maybe beyond.

Hodge is a fast guy, but beyond that there doesn't appear to be much more to him.

After that, the only pick with any potential IMO is Parquett. Svitek may develop into a good run blocker in our scheme since he appears to be pretty mobile. Kahri Long is a bigtime WTF (I'm sure she'll be good camp fodder). Kilian was taken ahead of guys that had more production in college.

Overall it was an A+++ for the first two rounds (I'm counting Surtain), and about a C+ for the rest.

Not to disagree, but I believe our draft was very good. We both agree on our first two picks (DJ and trade for Surtain) so I'll move on to the others drafted by us.

Colquitt- the BEST Prospect in the years draft for punter. Most had him slated as high 4th rounder. We saw a major need and addressed it with one of the best prospects since Lechler and gave up a pick that was untradeable to upgrade a STARTER. He makes the team, IMO.

Thorpe-If he hadn't gotten hurt in the past he was a first rounder in any other draft. He also has gone up against some of the same talent that was recently drafted high in this year's draft. We got him in the 4th. That's a Hell of value in my book. Plus he's got the speed and heigth. He makes the team, IMO.

Hodge-Another value pick. One of the really quick players with heigth, that also has skills. Alot of the players drafted before him are just as big of projects. He's got limitations, but he's got some upside, too. He makes the team, IMO.

Grigsby-we took a hard-nosed, blue-collar type, who is a FOOTBALL player. He looks like the epitome of a Gunther LBer and we needed depth there. I'd be real surprised if he doesn't contribute on special teams from day one. He makes the team, IMO.

Khari Long- has the size to play DE. Looks like a a project and the player that I see least likely of making the team.

Will Svitek-We can always use depth at guard, especially with this likely Will Shields final year. Not sure if he makes the team or not, he could at least make the practce squad.

Kilian-Looks like an athletic QB, who actually showed some leadership skills at the University of Tulsa. Also, very athletic. A project, but our offensive staff has an eye for talent. I''ll defer to them on this pick. Plus our QBs aren't getting any younger, we need a QB in the system, that we can develop. PS guy.

Parquet looks like another project guy, but that's what the 7th round is for. He has lots of upside and a huge build. Some had him slated as the 12th overall OT in this year's draft.

I can't find much fault in our draft. They addressed immediate needs and took a few projects that could pay big divedends if it works out.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm wondering this morning if some of the negative grades we've gotten have more to do with the antagonstic attitude of the FO towards the media than the actual picks

you sound like carl now

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Laz

you sound like carl now

That's just dumb. I'll chalk it up to it being Monday.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Beyond Johnson, our draft was pretty mediocre.

Colquitt was the best punter available in the draft, but it's still using a 3rd round pick on a punter.

Thorpe was good value in the 4th, with a ton of upside. But he's also a question mark. If he doesn't return to his '03 form, he won't be worth much in the end.

Grigsby sounds like he could give us ST help right away, but I think a lot of Chiefs fans have put this guy on a bit of a pedestal due to his personality in post draft interviews. I'm sure there are pundits that believe he would have been available with our later 5th, or maybe beyond.

Hodge is a fast guy, but beyond that there doesn't appear to be much more to him.

After that, the only pick with any potential IMO is Parquett. Svitek may develop into a good run blocker in our scheme since he appears to be pretty mobile. Kahri Long is a bigtime WTF (I'm sure she'll be good camp fodder). Kilian was taken ahead of guys that had more production in college.

Overall it was an A+++ for the first two rounds (I'm counting Surtain), and about a C+ for the rest.

I kinda agree. I really like the Colquitt pick. That's really good value for the 99th overall pick because it's an almost guaranteed contribution. Would you rather have a punter who we know is going to see the field at least some or another Key Fox that hardly suits up?

The one reason I'm high on the Grigsby pick is because of how closely he parallels Jared Allen. I just think we've found something there.

I watched Hodge quite a bit in college and I like the pick. He's sound and solid, but not spectacular. I think he could play nickel by mid-season and at the very least push Bartee or Battle right off the roster.

I agree pretty much on the next 3 picks but I love the Parquet pick. Very little risk for what could be big reward - most of the draft services had him as high as the start of the 3rd but really no later than the 4th round.

[jspchief]

Lee me clarify my Colquitt comments. 3rd round is high for a punter, period. Even Vermeil admitted that you have to reach a round to guarantee you get the STer you want (kind of sounds like they may have been burnt on waiting a round for Kaeding). I'm okay with the pick.

As far as Parquett, I really like the pick. He's the perfect candidate for a late pick. His weaknesses are technique and upper body strength. Both of those can be improved. He's a big SOB, and with the right coaching, could develop. The only question is whether KC has the staff to develop him. We don't seem to accomplish much with D-linemen.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

That's just dumb. I'll chalk it up to it being Monday.

cool ... then i'll just chalk that dumb post of yours us to monday as well.



lame conspiracy theories work much better on mondays anyway

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Lee me clarify my Colquitt comments. 3rd round is high for a punter, period. Even Vermeil admitted that you have to reach a round to guarantee you get the STer you want (kind of sounds like they may have been burnt on waiting a round for Kaeding). I'm okay with the pick.

As far as Parquett, I really like the pick. He's the perfect candidate for a late pick. His weaknesses are technique and upper body strength. Both of those can be improved. He's a big SOB, and with the right coaching, could develop. The only question is whether KC has the staff to develop him. We don't seem to accomplish much with D-linemen.

Parquet is an OFFENSIVE lineman. Your comment about defensive line coaches has nothing to do with Parquet. We already know Mike Solari kicks ass with the O-lineman.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by whoman69

If it were just for the 6th and 7th rounds, I'd have to give an F. They went for some big time projects there for guys who don't even show up on most boards. I'll give an overall grade of B, but that's because I'm a hardass. None of this grading on a curve for me.

I agree with you completely.

I think the bad grades are also coming from people who aren't counting Surtain - obviously the best CB available - as a pick, per se. We're also dealing with others like Prisco who think we took a punter with the second-round pick.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Parquet is an OFFENSIVE lineman. Your comment about defensive line coaches has nothing to do with Parquet. We already know Mike Solari kicks ass with the O-lineman.

Yep. My bad. I was thinking Parquet was a DT.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Laz

lame conspiracy theories work much better on mondays anyway

Might want some more coffee. Your brain's even slower than usual. And that's saying something.

The media in general doesn't treat this franchise well. At least not in my experience and/or opinion. I believe that's because the front office, most specifically Bob Moore and Carl himself, treats them like shit.

Something tells me Carl wouldn't say something like that. But, hey, if you think I sound like Carl, more power to ya.

Hey, call it a conspiracy theory if you want. Because I do find it strange that they'd give our draft below average grades and point at Johnson, a player many of them had highly-rated pre-draft, as a reason why.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Might want some more coffee. Your brain's even slower than usual. And that's saying something.

The media in general doesn't treat this franchise well. At least not in my experience and/or opinion. I believe that's because the front office, most specifically Bob Moore and Carl himself, treats them like shit.

Something tells me Carl wouldn't say something like that. But, hey, if you think I sound like Carl, more power to ya.

Hey, call it a conspiracy theory if you want. Because I do find it strange that they'd give our draft below average grades and point at Johnson, a player many of them had highly-rated pre-draft, as a reason why.

Compound that with the fact that every time the Chiefs go out and have a good season and convince the media to jump on the bandwagon, the team dumps a steaming load of diarrhea on their predictions the following season. I honestly think KC's choke jobs after 13-3 seasons have burned so many "experts" that they are reluctant to expect anything decent from the Chiefs, or are afraid to predict success.

[Chiefnj]

I was getting really excited about the third round pick. There were a string of what I would consider good players available until about 10 picks before us; next thing you know Beck, Hill and Blackstock got snatched up.

In the 4th round I can live with Craphonso, although I probably would have went with Chris Canty.

In the 5th I probably would have went with McPherson and Seward.

In the 6th I would have went with Goddard and Browner.

In the 7th the only change I would have gone with Shazor instead of the QB having taken McPherson earlier.

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by ILWarpaint

Carlos Hall and John Welbourne should be included in this draft as well.

Excellent point. If Johnson, Surtain, Welbourne, Colquitt, and Hall all contribute big this year then I have to say this years draft was outstanding no matter what happens to the rest of the picks.

I do want to better understand the thinking behind the Khari Long pick. My only guess is they see him as high potential for special teams.