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Old 04-15-2005, 07:13 AM  
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Gout

anyone have any home cures? Ive had it since i was about 26 but havent had an attack in acouple years had a mild one acouple days ago.

the meds make me leary cause my doc said theyre hard on you.

anything work for you?

anyone tried the cherry juice thing?
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:17 AM   #2
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:18 AM   #3
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Holy crap, first the ear and now the gout? When are we gonna pull your feeding tube, gimp?
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:19 AM   #4
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Don't have a home remedy.

My neighbor had it years ago.

Too much time on the road, too much drinking
and not enough water daily intake.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:21 AM   #5
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My dad uses Glucosamine Chondroitin and he swears by the stuff. I think you have to take it for a couple months before you really notice the difference.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:21 AM   #6
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I've battled that evil li'l bastard... shellfish is what flairs it up for me, so I've avoided anything related to shellfish the last 6 years and have had no issues.

I've decided to 'dance with the devil' a few times and sample some at a nice dinner, and I've paid the price the next 48 hours. It's a wicked freaking pain.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:26 AM   #7
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Believe it or not, having sex is a cure. It seems that increased sexual activity reduces uric acid levels in fertile men.

We'll assume you're fertile until you say otherwise.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:26 AM   #8
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I've battled that evil li'l bastard... shellfish is what flairs it up for me, .
dill pickles and going from warm to cold weather.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:28 AM   #9
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Believe it or not, having sex is a cure. It seems that increased sexual activity reduces uric acid levels in fertile men.

We'll assume you're fertile until you say otherwise.
i scrog my woman everyother day and havent noticed a diffrence.
does it come out in my hate paste? Not being gross.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:32 AM   #10
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does it come out in my hate paste? Not being gross.
No. Your post haste is the problem, Speedy.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:37 AM   #11
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anyone have any home cures? Ive had it since i was about 26 but havent had an attack in acouple years had a mild one acouple days ago.

the meds make me leary cause my doc said theyre hard on you.

anything work for you?

anyone tried the cherry juice thing?
I tried the cherry juice method, and bing cherries and it doesn't seem to help all that much. Although some people swear by it.

Lots of water, exercise (even though painful) and moderation seems to keep it away. Once it hits, the only thing that helps me is something called indomethacin. It clears it up fairly quickly with no side effects.

Sucky condition to have because there's not much to do about it.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:38 AM   #12
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No. Your post haste is the problem, Speedy.
bwahahahaaa thats so funny.




note the sarcasm.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:39 AM   #13
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Prevention

• One of the best ways to prevent gout is to drink at least 6-8 eight ounce glasses of water, fresh juices or herb tea daily, especially at the first signs of gout. This will keep your urine diluted and will help your body excrete uric acid and prevent crystals from forming.

• Eat foods high in potassium.

• Eating generous amounts of other fruits and vegetables helps keep uric acid crystals in solution.

• Take the flavonoid quercetin - see below under Folk Remedies. This should be part of your permanent gout-prevention diet.

• Having sex prevents men from getting gout. It seems that increased sexual activity reduces uric acid levels in fertile men.

• Lemon juice prevents gout attacks by stimulating the formation of calcium carbonate in the body. Calcium carbonate neutralizes acids in the body, including uric acid that triggers gout attacks. After each meal drink the juice of one freshly squeezed lemon in a glass of lukewarm water. To get more juice out of the lemon, bring it to room temperature, then roll it around on the counter with the palm of your hand.

• Taking ½ teaspoon of baking soda with meals will prevent gout attacks. This will help alkalize the body.

• Keep the leg elevated.

• A high fiber diet also aids in the elimination of uric acid by absorbing bile acids formed in the liver. These bile acids can act as a precursor to uric acid.

Supplements

B complex - One to three 50 mg tablets of the complete B complex daily, plus 500 mg of pantothenic acid (B5) in divided doses to assist the body's conversion of uric acid into harmless compounds.

Fish oil - Take 2 grams of fish oil capsules 2x a day to reduce the chances of gouty inflammation.

L-glutamine - 500 mg four times daily on an empty stomach - is an antacid.

Magnesium citrate - 400 mg three times a day - an anti-spasmodic to relieve pain.

Shark cartilage used on a daily basis of 3-6 capsules/day can make the pain disappear and allow you to eat previously forbidden foods within one week without experiancing pain in the affected joint. After approximately one month of continuous use, you may stop taking the cartilage until the pain reoccurs. At this point you will probably only need to take the cartilage (3-6 capsules) for a week or two. You may continue this on/off cycle as needed. Your uric acid level may return to normal, but even if it doesn't, the pain will go away.

Vitamin C - 1,000 mg per hour at the very outset of a gout attack, then reduce to 500-3,000 mg daily for maintenance. Vitamin C helps lower serum uric acid levels.

Vitamin E - Low-purine diets are low in vitamin E and fried foods deplete it, so supplementation will be necessary as a deficiency can contribute to the formation of excess uric acid. Begin with 100 IU of natural vitamin E, and slowly increase to 6-800 IU daily.

Acupressure

• Press just below the center of the nose toward the upper lip.

• Press and massage between the ball of the foot and the bottom of the big toe on each foot; then on the left foot only, stimulate a point halfway between the base of the little toe and the heel pad.

• Press inward and upward on the underside of the protuberance at the base of the skull.

• On both hands, press and massage a point on the inside of the pad at the base of the thumb directly beneath the index finger; then on the left palm only, stimulate a point halfway between the base of the little finger and the wrist.

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Alfalfa is a good source of minerals and other nutrients that help reduce serum uric acid.

Apple cider vinegar (ACV) - Add some rose hips to vinegar and boil; dab on affected area. You may need to apply this mixture several times a day for a few weeks. The vinegar changes the blood pH so that the crystals will go into solution and be excreted.

• Mix two teaspoons each of apple cider vinegar and raw honey in a glass of water and drink at mealtime.

• Soak the foot in a mixture of ½ cup of ACV and three cups of hot water.

Black cherry juice - Get some natural, concentrated black cherry juice and drink several tablespoons of the concentrate daily. You should expect relief in 48 hours.

Blueberries are high in anti-inflammatory compounds called anthocyanins, which help ease the pain of gout.

Castor oil packs - Soak a piece of white flannel in warm castor oil, wring it out and place over the affected area; cover with plastic wrap and apply a heating pad. Do this for one hour twice daily.

Cayenne pepper - Boil one tablespoon of pepper in 1 cup of vinegar and 1 cup of water and dab onto the painful joint.

• Mix cayenne with enough wintergreen oil to make a paste and apply to the affected area.

Celery seeds - These seeds are quite effective in relieving gout by eliminating uric acid from the body. According to James Duke, Ph.D., a medical botanist formerly with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, celery seeds contain about twenty different anti-inflammatory agents. Although there is little scientific research on celery seeds, according to Kerry Bone, a leading expert on herbal remedies in Australia, "it (sic) works brilliantly in patients." Note: This remedy is not to be used by pregnant women or those with kidney disease because of its potential diuretic effect.

• Cook a tablespoon of celery seeds in two cups of water until they are soft; strain and drink 1/2 cup four times a day.

Charcoal - Take ½-1 teaspoon of activated charcoal daily.

• Make a poultice using ½ cup of activated charcoal, 3 tablespoons of ground flaxseed and warm water to draw out the toxins.

Cherries - If you are lucky enough to have fresh cherries, eating 6-8 cherries daily will relieve the symptoms of gout. This remedy was reported in 1950 by Dr. Ludwig W. Blau who cured his own gout. Frozen and canned cherries may also be used. When you feel an attack coming on, eat 20-30 cherries immediately. Cherries are rich in compounds that prevent the destruction of collagen, which the body uses to form connective tissue. The connective tissue is damaged by gout. Cherries also have an enzyme that neutralizes uric acid and are high in anthocyanins which have high antioxidant properties as well as anti-inflammatory action. For greatest effectiveness eat them between meals.

Garlic - Eat several cloves of raw garlic daily. Mince the garlic and add it to black cherry juice for a potent remedy.

Ginger - Put 1/3 cup of ground ginger (buy in bulk to keep the cost down) in a bathtub of water and soak for 30 minutes. This will cause you to sweat (a good thing) which will help eliminate the uric acid from your tissues. When you are finished the bath be sure to rinse off thoroughly, as the ginger can cause skin irritation if it dries on your skin.

Grapes are high in alkalines which lessen the acidity of uric acid and aid in its elimination from the body.

Ice - Apply an ice pack for ten minutes, then alternate with a moist hot-towel compress, to soothe and numb the pain.

Parsley acts as a natural diuretic.

Spearmint - Make a poultice of spearmint leaves and wrap the affected area.

Strawberries - Eating a cup of strawberries with each meal should bring quick relief. They neutralize uric acid.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:43 AM   #14
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Once it hits, the only thing that helps me is something called indomethacin. It clears it up fairly quickly with no side effects.
Indomethacin will kill the pain but that's about all it does.

Your doc could put you on Allopurinol or Colchicine but both of them have possible nasty side effects.

Allopurinol - skin eruptions, liver toxicity, inflammation of the blood vessels, and possible weakening of kidney function by forcing the kidneys to work too hard to excrete the uric acid. If you have kidney problems and use this drug, be sure to be carefully monitored.

Colchicine - numbness in the hands and feet, abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, weakness, hair loss, and abnormal bleeding or bruising.
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