NFL Draft This guy could get us a GREAT pass rush next year...

NIUhuskies · 12-10-2008, 10:06 PM

Larry English, MAC Defensive Player of the Year. Obviously, I'm a big NIU fan so I'm curious what everyones take is on this guy. His draft stock is skyrocketing right now. Sporting news has him rated as the #8 prospect in the entire draft, and he's been on Mel Kiper's big board for awhile now and now is #1 on nfldraftcountdown.com's hot prospect list

One of the country's most prolific pass rushers, Larry English amassed an amazing 56.0 tackles for a loss and 32.5 sacks during his college career with the Huskies. As a senior English totaled 15.0 TFL and 8.0 Sacks en route to being named the Mid-American Conference's Most Valuable Player and, for the second year in a row, the Defensive Player of the Year. A classic 'tweener at 6-3 and 255 pounds, English played defensive end in college but he may have to make the move to outside linebacker in the pros. Most likely in a 3-4 scheme. What position English will play might still be up in the air but at this point scouts don't seem to care because they tend to find room for guys who can rush the passer like he can. Right now English looks like a fringe Day One pick but his stock is really soaring and there are some who feel he could compete for a spot in the first round.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/featur...t/Hot-List.php

Here are some highlight videos of him, im just like hear people opinions good and bad, i think hed be a great pick up if he makes it to the 2nd round

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2008, 10:16 PM

With MAC competition, the question will always be asked: Is he Jason Babin or Jason Taylor. Some of it will depend on his wingspan and his strength. If he has shorter arms and he's not specimen with superior strength or speed off the edge, he might not be a good fit for a Cover 2 scheme, and we aren't going to switch to the 3-4 with our personnel.

NIUhuskies · 12-10-2008, 10:23 PM

I know Larry well, as i used to be part of the NIU program for years. The guy is a straight up monster, ive never seen anybody as jacked as him, at least in person, and speed off the edge is his specialty which you can see a lot in the videos. But at the same time your right about the MAC, it can be hit or miss, but a lot of the guys that do come out of the conference have chips on their shoulders for being passed over by the bigger schools. Larry had a sack against Minnesota and 2 against Tennessee this year which were their big out of conference games so he proved he can do it against better competition. I remember when we had Michael Turner a few years back and he used to straight up roll people. He did it to ROIDMAN and Maryland as well as Brodie's Crimson Tide in 03. Sorry for the tangent, just reliving the old glory days!

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2008, 10:26 PM

He looks a lot like Jared Allen at Boise State

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2008, 10:28 PM

I feel you, I went to a MAC school too, and I follow the league as close as someone can who lives 600+ miles away.

****ing bastard was offered by BG and went to NIU instead, so I hate him. I know he was a LB in high school. I wonder how much more weight his frame can hold, though.

You know he'll probably have a good career if Pitt gets ahold of him, though.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

He looks a lot like Jared Allen at Boise State

Idaho State.

kcfanintitanhell · 12-10-2008, 10:29 PM

Speaking of hit or miss, didn't Ben Roethlisberger come out of the MAC?

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Idaho State.

**** that

Ebolapox · 12-10-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I feel you, I went to a MAC school too, and I follow the league as close as someone can who lives 600+ miles away.

****ing bastard was offered by BG and went to NIU instead, so I hate him. I know he was a LB in high school. I wonder how much more weight his frame can hold, though.

You know he'll probably have a good career if Pitt gets ahold of him, though.

at least until the chiefs give him a lot of jack in free agency, then he'll ride the pine and we'll cut him a few years later.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2008, 10:34 PM

The one thing that you can notice just from those vids, is that he is a vicious tackler, but he lacks a burst to close. A lot of elite DE's at the college level blast into the quarterback once they clear the edge. It seemed more like he was just gaining ground until he got him.

Ebolapox · 12-10-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanintitanhell

Speaking of hit or miss, didn't Ben Roethlisberger come out of the MAC?

yep. so did charlie frye, chad pennington, randy moss and a few other notables.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2008, 10:36 PM

Notice the difference in speed around the edge here:

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

yep. so did charlie frye, chad pennington, randy moss and a few other notables.

Moss, doesn't really count though. However, there are a lot of good interior linemen in the NFL from the MAC.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2008, 10:39 PM

Do love the music though.

Cain't be shook. We hot.

What is that song?

NIUhuskies · 12-10-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I feel you, I went to a MAC school too, and I follow the league as close as someone can who lives 600+ miles away.

****ing bastard was offered by BG and went to NIU instead, so I hate him. I know he was a LB in high school. I wonder how much more weight his frame can hold, though.

You know he'll probably have a good career if Pitt gets ahold of him, though.

so you went to BG huh? You guys killed our Cinderella season in 03. we were 10-0 undefated and ranked 10 in the BCS and even ESPN Gameday was hosted at our game against you guys and you beat us. We finished 10-2 and now fucking bowl game after beating #9 Maryland, Alabama at bama, and Iowa State all in the same year. I was soo pissed!

English also got offered by Iowa too but he stayed committed to NIU

12-10-2008, 10:06 PM
NIUhuskies Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Casino cash: $8415050	This guy could get us a GREAT pass rush next year... Larry English, MAC Defensive Player of the Year. Obviously, I'm a big NIU fan so I'm curious what everyones take is on this guy. His draft stock is skyrocketing right now. Sporting news has him rated as the #8 prospect in the entire draft, and he's been on Mel Kiper's big board for awhile now and now is #1 on nfldraftcountdown.com's hot prospect list One of the country's most prolific pass rushers, Larry English amassed an amazing 56.0 tackles for a loss and 32.5 sacks during his college career with the Huskies. As a senior English totaled 15.0 TFL and 8.0 Sacks en route to being named the Mid-American Conference's Most Valuable Player and, for the second year in a row, the Defensive Player of the Year. A classic 'tweener at 6-3 and 255 pounds, English played defensive end in college but he may have to make the move to outside linebacker in the pros. Most likely in a 3-4 scheme. What position English will play might still be up in the air but at this point scouts don't seem to care because they tend to find room for guys who can rush the passer like he can. Right now English looks like a fringe Day One pick but his stock is really soaring and there are some who feel he could compete for a spot in the first round. http://www.draftcountdown.com/featur...t/Hot-List.php Here are some highlight videos of him, im just like hear people opinions good and bad, i think hed be a great pick up if he makes it to the 2nd round
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12-10-2008, 10:16 PM	#2
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	With MAC competition, the question will always be asked: Is he Jason Babin or Jason Taylor. Some of it will depend on his wingspan and his strength. If he has shorter arms and he's not specimen with superior strength or speed off the edge, he might not be a good fit for a Cover 2 scheme, and we aren't going to switch to the 3-4 with our personnel. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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12-10-2008, 10:23 PM	#3
NIUhuskies Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Casino cash: $8415050	I know Larry well, as i used to be part of the NIU program for years. The guy is a straight up monster, ive never seen anybody as jacked as him, at least in person, and speed off the edge is his specialty which you can see a lot in the videos. But at the same time your right about the MAC, it can be hit or miss, but a lot of the guys that do come out of the conference have chips on their shoulders for being passed over by the bigger schools. Larry had a sack against Minnesota and 2 against Tennessee this year which were their big out of conference games so he proved he can do it against better competition. I remember when we had Michael Turner a few years back and he used to straight up roll people. He did it to ROIDMAN and Maryland as well as Brodie's Crimson Tide in 03. Sorry for the tangent, just reliving the old glory days!
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12-10-2008, 10:26 PM	#4
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12-10-2008, 10:28 PM	#5
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	I feel you, I went to a MAC school too, and I follow the league as close as someone can who lives 600+ miles away. ****ing bastard was offered by BG and went to NIU instead, so I hate him. I know he was a LB in high school. I wonder how much more weight his frame can hold, though. You know he'll probably have a good career if Pitt gets ahold of him, though. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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12-10-2008, 10:34 PM	#10
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	The one thing that you can notice just from those vids, is that he is a vicious tackler, but he lacks a burst to close. A lot of elite DE's at the college level blast into the quarterback once they clear the edge. It seemed more like he was just gaining ground until he got him. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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12-10-2008, 10:36 PM	#12
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Notice the difference in speed around the edge here: __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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12-10-2008, 10:39 PM	#14
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Do love the music though. Cain't be shook. We hot. What is that song? __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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