Restaurant bans tipping. Guess what happened?

[007]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

That's ****ing absurd. No way in hell I'm tipping $4-5 on a pizza. Get a different job.

I can see it if you are spending $30 or more on pizza. But for a single pizza, no friggin way. But that is why I drive 2 miles to get my own pizza.

[PornChief]

Australia doesn't have this culture of tipping and I'd love it if one of you guys came down one day just to see for themselves and tell me what it's like. But then even kids working at McDonald's get about 16-17 bucks an hour and most waitresses in cafes would get paid a bit more than that. Some places have a weekend and holiday surcharge (10%-20%) since you got to pay staff time and half or double time (hols and Sundays).
Even pizza delivery is protected by law, gotta earn at least the minimum wage after expenses. Think that's about $15.75.

[Bugeater]

I dated a waitress for 5 years when I was in my 20s, her and the other waitresses always maintained that it was working-class men who tipped the best. But that was 20 years ago...I know Zach has been in the business more recently so maybe things have changed.

[Dayze]

if service is excellent, I usually tip 20% or slightly more; and usually call the manager over to tell them server/waiter/waitress etc is doing an excellent job.

[MahiMike]

I dont dare comment on this one...

[DJJasonp]

Not sure if mentioned previously or not....but I see that the original article didnt bring up this point:

What this policy also does....is that it keeps the staff and bartenders from having any incentive to toss a free drink or dessert a customer's way, in an attempt to boost their tip.

I kinda see both sides of that. From a business-owner perspective, that could be detrimental to the bottom line. BUT - I know that my wife and I will be repeat customers if we're taken care of by a particular server or bartender (and ultimately, the establishment makes more money from me).

[BWillie]

I think it's funny that ppl pride themselves on tipping more than 20%, like they are some man of honor. GTFO. I would like to thank those ppl for subsiding ppl like myself. I am cheap, & proud of it. Being frugal in my life as enabled me to live the life, have a surplus of $ that I can use for other things that MATTER. I've been a waiter before, so don't give me that shit like oh you don't know you haven't ever worked it. I made probably WAY more than I deserved at the time. Most waiters don't YET have the job skills to make as much as they make waitressing. Obv. that is why they do it. Usually because they either 1) Don't have education 2) Are on their way and in college 3) Or just can't do anything else. And I'll be damned if I'm going to tip 20% just cuz you are good looking or kissing my ass so you can pay for your 5 kids.

I've calculated I'll save $14,000 throughout my life by tipping 10% instead of 20%. You know what that means? You guys just bought me $14,000 worth of cocaine, hookers, and barbeque sauce. Thank you

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I think it's funny that ppl pride themselves on tipping more than 20%, like they are some man of honor. GTFO. I would like to thank those ppl for subsiding ppl like myself. I am cheap, & proud of it. Being frugal in my life as enabled me to live the life, have a surplus of $ that I can use for other things that MATTER. I've been a waiter before, so don't give me that shit like oh you don't know you haven't ever worked it. I made probably WAY more than I deserved at the time. Most waiters don't YET have the job skills to make as much as they make waitressing. Obv. that is why they do it. Usually because they either 1) Don't have education 2) Are on their way and in college 3) Or just can't do anything else. And I'll be damned if I'm going to tip 20% just cuz you are good looking or kissing my ass so you can pay for your 5 kids.

I've calculated I'll save $14,000 throughout my life by tipping 10% instead of 20%. You know what that means? You guys just bought me $14,000 worth of cocaine, hookers, and barbeque sauce. Thank you

I think it's funny that it's standard that it has to be 20% of the check.

Do they teach waiters at 5 star restaurants how to bring water to your table differently? Hell... I've noticed now that the person taking my order very seldom brings out the ****ing food.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I think it's funny that it's standard that it has to be 20% of the check.

Do they teach waiters at 5 star restaurants how to bring water to your table differently? Hell... I've noticed now that the person taking my order very seldom brings out the ****ing food.

I can agree with this.

If you think about it, we tip our servers 20% of the bill... To bring us drinks and take our food orders?

Seriously, in a lot of large-scale establishments, there's a separate person to greet/seat you, bring your food out, and clean up your mess when you leave. Servers often have little to do.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I can agree with this.

If you think about it, we tip our servers 20% of the bill... To bring us drinks and take our food orders?

Seriously, in a lot of large-scale establishments, there's a separate person to greet/seat you, bring your food out, and clean up your mess when you leave. Servers often have little to do.

Shit, for a short time in the 80s there was actually a Playboy Club at a hotel here in Omaha. I worked there for a few days as a "service assistant" and it was the biggest crock of shit ever. The Bunnies (waitresses) took the food order and got the drinks for the table, and the SA did EVERY ****ING THING ELSE. Then at the end of the night the Bunnies were suppose to give us a percentage of their tips, can't remember what it was but they basically gave each of us a couple bucks and some would flat-out stiff us. It was pretty much the worst job I ever had. I hated that goddamn place.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Shit, for a short time in the 80s there was actually a Playboy Club at a hotel here in Omaha. I worked there for a few days as a "service assistant" and it was the biggest crock of shit ever. The Bunnies (waitresses) took the food order and got the drinks for the table, and the SA did EVERY ****ING THING ELSE. Then at the end of the night the Bunnies were suppose to give us a percentage of their tips, can't remember what it was but they basically gave each of us a couple bucks and some would flat-out stiff us. It was pretty much the worst job I ever had. I hated that goddamn place.

Did they let you look at their breasts in lieu of your tip share?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I think it's funny that it's standard that it has to be 20% of the check.

Do they teach waiters at 5 star restaurants how to bring water to your table differently? Hell... I've noticed now that the person taking my order very seldom brings out the ****ing food.

And it was 15% until I was about 30. I have no idea when the norm suddenly became 20% and how that happened.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

And it was 15% until I was about 30. I have no idea when the norm suddenly became 20% and how that happened.

I still think of 15% as being the standard tip for "average" service (20% = good and 10% = bad). That said, I tend to go on the 20% side most of the time as long as I don't have any specific complaints.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I still think of 15% as being the standard tip for "average" service (20% = good and 10% = bad). That said, I tend to go on the 20% side most of the time as long as I don't have any specific complaints.

Interesting. I always went with 15 percent and then at some point I kept hearing about 20 percent being the standard so I upped it with a grimace and a bad feeling that I was yielding to peer pressure.

But it sounds like your definition equates "acceptable" with "good", so it seems like we're in the same place but via different paths. You give 20 percent because your typical service is "good" (i.e., acceptable) and I give 20 percent because I view that as average (i.e., acceptable).

[007]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

And it was 15% until I was about 30. I have no idea when the norm suddenly became 20% and how that happened.

I always got a kick out of people stating that increase was due to inflation and was necessary for servers salaries to keep up.

They obviously didn't understand that inflation automatically increased the size of the tip.