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Old 03-28-2014, 10:48 PM  
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Late night bullshit: How the Chiefs make Desean Jackson cap friendly.
Pretty simple.

The Chiefs really want Desean Jackson, but they don't have a lot of cap space in 2014.

Desean Jackson really wants to play for the Chiefs, namely their coach, but he wants his payday.

How do you make these two pieces fit?

In negotiation theory, a compromise is when both sides of a dispute both sacrifice a little in order to achieve something.

However, a collaboration is when both sides get what they want from the dispute, and nobody has to sacrifice much of anything.

The solution, my friends, is in four words: the Eagles dead money.

Desean Jackson gets $10m in dead money from Philly over the next three years.

$6m in 2014
$2m in 2015
$2m in 2016

Since I'm not concerned about our cap number in 2015 (regardless of the recent thread decrying our lack of cap space, we're going to make strategic cuts that will give us around $40m pre-Houston-extension) or 2016, we obviously need to make 2014 work.

Well, the Eagles pretty much did that for us. Jackson's guaranteed $6m from them. All we need to do is pony up something like $6m, and boom, we get Jackson for a deal, and he gets paid like a mother****er.

We can pay him comfortably in 2015 and 2016, even load some guaranteed money in there. In 2017, we can have something set up to give us flexibility to cut him if we need to.

Both sides get exactly what they want without having to sacrifice anything.

The Chiefs can, and should, land Desean Jackson.
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:30 AM   #31
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Not my usual stance, but if the team decides he's worth the hassle, I won't have any reason to complain. They'll have access to background checks and info I'll never see regarding his personality and affiliations. And it's kind of hard to argue against the value of a guy who just posted an 80-catch, 1300 yard, 9 TD season who'll basically be in the middle of his prime at 28 during the season. He would add a relatively rare element of playmaking ability to this offense.
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:32 AM   #32
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Not my usual stance, but if the team decides he's worth the hassle, I won't have any reason to complain. They'll have access to background checks and info I'll never see regarding his personality and affiliations. And it's kind of hard to argue against the value of a guy who just posted an 80-catch, 1300 yard, 9 TD season who'll basically be in the middle of his prime at 28 during the season. He would add a relatively rare element of playmaking ability to this offense.
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:24 AM   #33
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:25 AM   #34
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:40 AM   #35
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Care to explain how extending a player on his 3rd round rookie contract SAVES cap space?
I am saying if you get Desean Jackson, then you are completely all-in and that means you have 2 years to extend him.

But I'll take it a step further. I would also really prefer not to let Houston hit the 2015 free agent market. His price is probably going to skyrocket given the new cap and once teams start competing for him. Not to mention I expect him to have another really good season, which only drives his price up. So even if it kills your cap today, Houston is a contract you probably want to take care of ASAP.
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:43 AM   #36
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So even if it kills your cap today, Houston is a contract you probably want to take care of ASAP.
So your argument for creating space to sign Jackson is to kill it by extending Houston?

Houston's money will come with the release of Flowers and/or Hali.
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They're already in talks with Houston. He's probably getting done regardless of Jackson.
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"Front load" DeSean Jackson??? "Not sign Houston" ????

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Yes, if you do go after Desean Jackson, Laz's scenario is better where you don't pay him a signing bonus. But I'm sure he's pushing against that. If he demands a big signing bonus, sorry, but I don't trust the guy one bit to not bitch about his contract or do something stupid. So I would want a contract that's easy to get out of at any time with no dead money. Front-loading does that.

Where did you get that I don't want to sign Houston? I'm saying that if you sign Jackson, Houston becomes really difficult to sign in 2014 without juggling a LOT of stuff around. Which means you're basically begging him to test the 2015 market where we probably would re-sign him, but at an enormous price tag. Of course, we could franchise him, but that's going to cost us as of now $12.5M.
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So your argument for creating space to sign Jackson is to kill it by extending Houston?

Houston's money will come with the release of Flowers and/or Hali.
If I had to choose between the two, I would put extending Houston as a much higher priority than signing Jackson. The franchise tag helps you somewhat. But Houston's asking price is going to balloon the next 2 years.
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If I had to choose between the two, I would put extending Houston as a much higher priority than signing Jackson. The franchise tag helps you somewhat. But Houston's asking price is going to balloon the next 2 years.
Houston is going to demand something around 5 years and $60 mil.
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He just got real cap friendly...
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He just got real cap friendly...
You think he deserves more than Clay Matthews who was a Defensive Player of the Year caliber player and a 2-time All-Pro?

Matthews was just extended to a 5-year $66 mil deal in 2013.
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