Chiefs Detailed KC Star article about John Dorsey - Page 7

Mecca · 01-13-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

not really.

all depth. Their BPA just fell that way.

I find it hard to believe drafting Casey Hayward includes a NEED when you have Sam Shields, Tramon Williams and Charles Woodson on the roster. Essentially drafting a 4th CB. He at that time was their BPA on their board at that slot, regardless of who they had on their team and they still snatched him. Great insurance policy to groom if Sam Shields walks in a year or when Woodson retires. It's not an immediate need for the 2012 season, is the point.

Yeah the guy had a good year because he was sprung into starters minutes cause a couple of the guys ahead of him got hurt. But it's not like they know that on draft day. They are just a team that always drafts secondary, whether to groom and develop or as an insurance policy. Not because there is necessarily a need.

Same with LBer and D-line. Jerrell Worthy didnt fit a need other than a perfect talent to groom. Even then he's not a need that gets thrown into the starting lineup, he's still 2nd/3rd string depth.

That's just how they draft. Players for positional competition and grooming, not necessarily a positional need.

Woodson plays safety now so that opened a CB need.

**ChiefGator** · 01-14-2013, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

The Packers drafted 5 straight defensive players to start last years draft, following a season where their defense killed them. Unless its a coincidence, their BPA formula includes need.

As does Reid's. They have been drafting very heavy in defense the last 2-3 years in Philly trying to repair that D.

DaWolf · 01-13-2013, 11:07 PM

What they do with Albert will tell us everything that we need to know about how they plan on drafting with that first pick.

The QB position may also be dependent on how they end up ranking the QBs. For example, if Geno is the 7th best player on their board, they may not take him at 1 overall. But if they've got another QB on their board that they think will be around late first, I wouldn't be surprised to see them try to trade back into the first round later on and take that guy. We shall see...

**BossChief** · 01-13-2013, 11:12 PM

Who knows what Jimmy Clausen would have been if we drafted him when Charlie Weis was still here. That was a large part of why we liked him so much at the time.

I'd also like to say that it's unfair to judge the guy when he didn't have a chance to develop...lots of qbs have came out looking bad till the point where the game slows down for them kicks in.

RustShack · 01-13-2013, 11:13 PM

Reid is great with QB's. If he doesn't think Geno is his franchise QB, he can make him look good for a year and trade him for a killing if he really wants to to get his own guy.

But I think Geno has it. Hes very talented, has the size, has speed, and most importantly has arm strength and accuracy. His problems are fixable, and Reid is one of the best in the business to fix him. I think he has everything Dorsey also looks for in a QB.

Austin Ed · 01-13-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Reid is great with QB's. If he doesn't think Geno is his franchise QB, he can make him look good for a year and trade him for a killing if he really wants to to get his own guy.

But I think Geno has it. Hes very talented, has the size, has speed, and most importantly has arm strength and accuracy. His problems are fixable, and Reid is one of the best in the business to fix him. I think he has everything Dorsey also looks for in a QB.

Fast? Geno's low 40 time is 4.76. High is 5.02.

RustShack · 01-13-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ed

Fast? Geno's low 40 time is 4.76. High is 5.02.

Which would make him one of the faster QB's in the league.

Titty Meat · 01-13-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Which would make him one of the faster QB's in the league.

Doesn't matter he never runs which is one of the annoying things about him.

**Bowser** · 01-13-2013, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Doesn't matter he never runs which is one of the annoying things about him.

If he can develop his game into what Russell Wilson is, that is always looking downfield and running as the very last option, I'd be perfectly ok with that.

RippedmyFlesh · 01-14-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Doesn't matter he never runs which is one of the best things about him.

FYP

**The Franchise** · 01-13-2013, 11:18 PM

I'd take Clausen over Stanzi as the 3rd QB.

**BossChief** · 01-13-2013, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'd take Clausen over Stanzi as the 3rd QB.

I'd be ok with having those two as the backups. Let Reid coach them up and flip one of em for picks.

**BossChief** · 01-13-2013, 11:18 PM

John Dorsey is planting the seeds for drafting Geno Smith. He has basically described him to a t.

HolyHat · 01-13-2013, 11:52 PM

His fastest 40 time was 4.55, he will run when need be. Kind of like what Aaron Rodgers does. Pass first but very athletic.

tk13 · 01-13-2013, 11:52 PM

At some point we're going to have to put it on the banner at the top of the board: GENO SMITH IS NOT A RUNNING QB. HE'S NOT RUSSELL WILSON OR RGIII, PLEASE MOVE ALONG NOW.

01-13-2013, 11:07 PM	#3
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	What they do with Albert will tell us everything that we need to know about how they plan on drafting with that first pick. The QB position may also be dependent on how they end up ranking the QBs. For example, if Geno is the 7th best player on their board, they may not take him at 1 overall. But if they've got another QB on their board that they think will be around late first, I wouldn't be surprised to see them try to trade back into the first round later on and take that guy. We shall see...
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01-13-2013, 11:12 PM	#4
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1664088	Who knows what Jimmy Clausen would have been if we drafted him when Charlie Weis was still here. That was a large part of why we liked him so much at the time. I'd also like to say that it's unfair to judge the guy when he didn't have a chance to develop...lots of qbs have came out looking bad till the point where the game slows down for them kicks in. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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01-13-2013, 11:13 PM	#5
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01-13-2013, 11:52 PM	#15
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1772500	At some point we're going to have to put it on the banner at the top of the board: GENO SMITH IS NOT A RUNNING QB. HE'S NOT RUSSELL WILSON OR RGIII, PLEASE MOVE ALONG NOW.
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