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Old 02-22-2013, 02:50 PM   #1
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Reid and Dorsey haven't had careers in the NFL as long as they have by picking out Manuels and Nassibs as the best in their class.

I don't know what they're thinking, but I can infer they're not completely inept at their jobs based on what they've done.

By the same token, I can point to the fact that they are still alive as evidence that they aren't dumb enough to lick broken glass on the sidewalk or stick their dicks in light sockets.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:57 PM   #2
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Reid and Dorsey haven't had careers in the NFL as long as they have by picking out Manuels and Nassibs as the best in their class.

I don't know what they're thinking, but I can infer they're not completely inept at their jobs based on what they've done.

By the same token, I can point to the fact that they are still alive as evidence that they aren't dumb enough to lick broken glass on the sidewalk or stick their dicks in light sockets.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:01 PM   #3
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And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:04 PM   #4
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And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level.
That's an opinion.

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Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round.
And this is a myth.

When the smoke clears, 1 or 2 QBs will be consensus top 10 picks and this whole ridiculous conversation will be over.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:12 PM   #5
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And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.
The smartest people in the world think the guy that takes the 3rd, 4th or 5th option will end up with the best.

The #1 pick in the NFL draft is used to take the best QB available. Unless your coach and GM don't want to keep their jobs, like Miami and Houston.

The #2 pick is where one goes after the best player available.
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And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:04 PM   #7
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And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.
There is not one single other QB in this draft that has Geno's combo of arm strength, accuracy and mobility. Not to mention intangibles.

Barkley? Arm sucks, stone feet.
Glennon? Accuracy highly questionable, even less mobile than Barkley.
Wilson? Seems to have the best combo other than Geno. Still not at his level.

Manuel? Bray? Nassib? Dysert? Jones? Not even in the picture. One of these guys probably falls to the 4th.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:09 PM   #8
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There is not one single other QB in this draft that has Geno's combo of arm strength, accuracy and mobility. Not to mention intangibles.

Barkley? Arm sucks, stone feet.
Glennon? Accuracy highly questionable, even less mobile than Barkley.
Wilson? Seems to have the best combo other than Geno. Still not at his level.

Manuel? Bray? Nassib? Dysert? Jones? Not even in the picture. One of these guys probably falls to the 4th.
Bray has the best arm strength but lacks in accuracy and mobility. At least give him some due credit.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:36 AM   #9
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Bray has the best arm strength but lacks in accuracy and mobility. At least give him some due credit.
So why the **** do you want a QB that has accuracy problems ? So you can continue suck ???
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:55 PM   #10
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There is not one single other QB in this draft that has Geno's combo of arm strength, accuracy and mobility. Not to mention intangibles.

Barkley? Arm sucks, stone feet.
Glennon? Accuracy highly questionable, even less mobile than Barkley.
Wilson? Seems to have the best combo other than Geno. Still not at his level.

Manuel? Bray? Nassib? Dysert? Jones? Not even in the picture. One of these guys probably falls to the 4th.
While I agee that Geno's combination of physical and mental attributes is greater, I don't think the separation is quite the chasm you portray it.
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While I agee that Geno's combination of physical and mental attributes is greater, I don't think the separation is quite the chasm you portray it.
I don't think it's a chasm. But I think everything considered he's 10-15% better than his closest competitor.
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While I agee that Geno's combination of physical and mental attributes is greater, I don't think the separation is quite the chasm you portray it.
The separation between Geno, Barkley, and Wilson is small.

The separation between those three and the rest of the class is pretty large.
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The separation between Geno, Barkley, and Wilson is small.

The separation between those three and the rest of the class is pretty large.
This I agree with.

And when you look at it, that smaal separation is parttly responsible for the muddled QB draft situation this year.

I can not remember a draft that didn't didn't have that clear cut #1 guyy.
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The separation between Geno, Barkley, and Wilson is small.

The separation between those three and the rest of the class is pretty large.
What makes Wilson so much better than Nassib or EJ? Wilson is great under pressure, but his overall size, accuracy and history of taking a beating are all pretty big red flags.
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