NFL Draft Fox Sports Poll: Who Should the Chiefs Draft at No. 1? - Page 11

Ugly Duck · 12-21-2012, 04:14 AM

Dec 20. It’s a very weak quarterback class. Matt Barkley is not a first round talent. Geno Smith is not worthy of the top overall pick. Using the NFL’s overall standings following Week 15, here's my latest top 32 and the places I could see college football’s top talent ending up.

1. Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel, Offensive tackle, Texas A&M*

The Chiefs are due for a change at the quarterback position, that’s for sure. I’m just not sure that quarterback is in this draft. Make no mistake about it — there’s no Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III in this 2013 draft class. There may not be a Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Brock Osweiler, Brandon Weeden or Russell Wilson, either. I’ll get clobbered for this and so might their front office, but I think Kansas City is better off acquiring a veteran quarterback (Alex Smith or Matt Flynn, perhaps) than rolling the dice on a rookie quarterback who’s unworthy of the top overall selection for the sake of drafting one. Joeckel is one of the most promising offensive tackle prospects I’ve seen in the past five years. Very athletic. Nimble. He was fantastic in Mike Sherman’s scheme and even better in Kliff Kingsbury’s. This may not inspire the fan base, but it’s a franchise cornerstone.

6. San Diego Chargers: Geno Smith, Quarterback, West Virginia

Before you freak out over this one, hear me out. I don’t think the Chargers have quarterback as the top position of need, but if Smith slips to No. 6, he’s certainly worth considering here. Philip Rivers will be entering his 10th season in San Diego come August and he’s not getting any younger. At the very least, Smith can add another look for opposing defenses to prepare for. Hey, this is taking a chance, as we don’t even know who will be coaching this team next year, but it’s worth the consideration. Smith’s not a sure-thing top-five pick in my eyes, but he’s certainly an enticing selection if you’re San Diego.

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Cannibal · 12-21-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I still can't get over somebody saying a team needs a QB but nobody is worth it only to say that a team FIVE spots lower that has a QB should be the team to take one.

Good point.

rtmike · 12-21-2012, 11:47 PM

Geno's not a #1 but he's worth 5 spots later.

You gotta be kidding me. Where's the ****in' logic with that?

ROYC75 · 12-21-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I still can't get over somebody saying a team needs a QB but nobody is worth it only to say that a team FIVE spots lower that has a QB should be the team to take one.

Oh hush you before the damn idiots wake up and post more crap about needing a LT,DT or some other crap instead of a franchise QB.

**RealSNR** · 12-21-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike

Geno's not a #1 but he's worth 5 spots later.

You gotta be kidding me. Where's the ****in' logic with that?

The same as it is every goddamn year.

Ryan Tannehill
Andy Dalton
(Okay, all the QBs were garbage in 2010)
Mark Sanchez/Josh Freeman

All of these QBs were just "not at the right value where the Chiefs were picking. If only KC had been a few spots lower, then maybe"

GoChargers · 12-22-2012, 12:02 AM

You should be thankful you avoided Assfumble Sanchez at least, though.

**RealSNR** · 12-22-2012, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

You should be thankful you avoided Assfumble Sanchez at least, though.

Sanchez could fail out of the league after this season, and I would still maintain that without the benefit of hindsight, he was the right decision for the Chiefs at 3. The Cassel trade should never have been made, and Pioli shouldn't have tried to outsmart everyone.

If Pioli really hated Sanchez that ****ing much, he should have eaten the poor trade down offer (whatever it was he received from teams) and then taken a guy he wanted. Tyson Jackson would still have been there; the only team that really wanted him besides us was Green Bay drafting at 10 overall.

**Reaper16** · 12-22-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Sanchez could fail out of the league after this season, and I would still maintain that without the benefit of hindsight, he was the right decision for the Chiefs at 3. The Cassel trade should never have been made, and Pioli shouldn't have tried to outsmart everyone.

If Pioli really hated Sanchez that ****ing much, he should have eaten the poor trade down offer (whatever it was he received from teams) and then taken a guy he wanted. Tyson Jackson would still have been there; the only team that really wanted him besides us was Green Bay drafting at 10 overall.

Yes. All of this.

bigjosh · 12-22-2012, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

You should be thankful you avoided Assfumble Sanchez at least, though.

cassel is just as bad, at least the jets tried to develop their own, and they'll probably do it again in the draft this year. That is a trait i would like our next gm to have. ADMIT MISTAKES AND FKING FIX THEM!!!

saphojunkie · 12-22-2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

WE WILL CONQUER ALL WITH OUR SUPERIOR ILB WHO ISN"T THAT FAST AND WILL IN ALL LIKELIHOOD STRUGGLE COVERING TE'S OR WR'S DOWN THE SEAM!!!! GARHHGHHGHHH TE'O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want Geno Smith as much as anyone, but Te'o is not going to struggle doing anything at the next level. The reason to not draft Te'o isn't because he won't be the next truly great MLB - he will be. The reason is that we don't need the next great anything except QB.

**007** · 12-22-2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefss

I still think Manti Teo will be the pick, and will be the right pick, then go OT in the 2nd rd, WR in the Rd, then look for a QB in the 4th or 5th rd, bring in a Alex Smith or Flynn and we'll be good to go

Damn, you are stupid.

**007** · 12-22-2012, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Who the **** cares if Luke Joeckel is a technician or a mauler? He could literally be a time-warped resurgence of Willie Roaf, and I wouldn't draft him over Geno Smith.

Let's say it's below freezing outside and you have the chance to buy a coat. You don't spend your last dollar on a briefcase instead, no matter how good of a deal it is. You buy the ****ing coat.

saphojunkie · 12-22-2012, 01:35 AM

What's truly bullshit is that the chiefs SHOULD be picking Te'o this year, even number one. But that's because they SHOULD have:

Drafted Russel Wilson.
Drafted another QB for competition.
Resigned Bowe.
Resigned Albert.
Resigned Carr.
Traded up for Mark Barron

Then...yeah. Go get your kick ass ILB.

**New World Order** · 12-22-2012, 02:19 AM

Not really sure what the fuss is about, everyone knows we need atleast 3 franchise Left Tackles to be a contender.

AussieChiefsFan · 12-22-2012, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

Not really sure what the fuss is about, everyone knows we need atleast 3 franchise Left Tackles to be a contender.

and 7 D-Linemen that don't do anything.

BryanBusby · 12-22-2012, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I want Geno Smith as much as anyone, but Te'o is not going to struggle doing anything at the next level. The reason to not draft Te'o isn't because he won't be the next truly great MLB - he will be. The reason is that we don't need the next great anything except QB.

Te'o isn't elite and he'd struggle to play Belchers role (ignoring the terrible value thing).

I'm not saying he's bad, but he doesn't fill a need for us.

12-21-2012, 04:14 AM
Ugly Duck MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $9955920	Fox Sports Poll: Who Should the Chiefs Draft at No. 1? Dec 20. It’s a very weak quarterback class. Matt Barkley is not a first round talent. Geno Smith is not worthy of the top overall pick. Using the NFL’s overall standings following Week 15, here's my latest top 32 and the places I could see college football’s top talent ending up. 1. Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel, Offensive tackle, Texas A&M* The Chiefs are due for a change at the quarterback position, that’s for sure. I’m just not sure that quarterback is in this draft. Make no mistake about it — there’s no Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III in this 2013 draft class. There may not be a Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Brock Osweiler, Brandon Weeden or Russell Wilson, either. I’ll get clobbered for this and so might their front office, but I think Kansas City is better off acquiring a veteran quarterback (Alex Smith or Matt Flynn, perhaps) than rolling the dice on a rookie quarterback who’s unworthy of the top overall selection for the sake of drafting one. Joeckel is one of the most promising offensive tackle prospects I’ve seen in the past five years. Very athletic. Nimble. He was fantastic in Mike Sherman’s scheme and even better in Kliff Kingsbury’s. This may not inspire the fan base, but it’s a franchise cornerstone. 6. San Diego Chargers: Geno Smith, Quarterback, West Virginia Before you freak out over this one, hear me out. I don’t think the Chargers have quarterback as the top position of need, but if Smith slips to No. 6, he’s certainly worth considering here. Philip Rivers will be entering his 10th season in San Diego come August and he’s not getting any younger. At the very least, Smith can add another look for opposing defenses to prepare for. Hey, this is taking a chance, as we don’t even know who will be coaching this team next year, but it’s worth the consideration. Smith’s not a sure-thing top-five pick in my eyes, but he’s certainly an enticing selection if you’re San Diego. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/M...-Werner-121812
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saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4766250	What's truly bullshit is that the chiefs SHOULD be picking Te'o this year, even number one. But that's because they SHOULD have: Drafted Russel Wilson. Drafted another QB for competition. Resigned Bowe. Resigned Albert. Resigned Carr. Traded up for Mark Barron Then...yeah. Go get your kick ass ILB.
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