Football Costas: Redskins 'an insult, a slur' - Page 4

**petegz28** · 10-14-2013, 09:02 AM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/b...edskins-101313

ModSocks · 10-14-2013, 10:20 AM

Meh. It IS racist. Redskins is at least. Names like Chiefs or Indians would be stupid to change though, as they are clearly not Racist.

Personally, i don't care if they change it or not, but lets not sit here and pretend that it's not a racist word.

ModSocks · 10-14-2013, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

What if they kept the name Redskins, but changed their mascot to a potato?

I think you're on to something....

lcarus · 10-14-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

The term Redskins represents our Nations Capital. Think about that for a second.......

I know. They clearly should have named their team the Washington Dipshits for a more accurate representation.

KC native · 10-14-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Meh. It IS racist. Redskins is at least. Names like Chiefs or Indians would be stupid to change though, as they are clearly not Racist.

Personally, i don't care if they change it or not, but lets not sit here and pretend that it's not a racist word.

Shhhhhhhhhh, the angry white guys are getting frothy. Let them have their internet rage.

Gravedigger · 10-14-2013, 10:29 AM

He makes some good talking points. It is the only team that's name doesn't have any kind of positive twist to it. I would view a team that was named the cowboys to be nothing at all while another team named the honkeys or crackers would be hard to say the same thing for. At least he's not Peter King who now views himself a better person than most because he doesn't use it in his articles and show anymore.

Fritz88 · 10-14-2013, 10:31 AM

He makes a good point.
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cwhocares · 10-14-2013, 10:34 AM

I applaud Mr. Snyder for standing his ground. This is his team and he alone needs to make the decision, as he already has. Don't succumb to the outside pressure of a very few. If people are upset about the name and want to protest, don't buy any of the merchandise and don't go to the games. That would hit every business man where it hurts.The name has been used for the team for over 80 years and now it's an issue? I don't think so. Why don't all of those BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS put their energy into something that will net positive results like Big Brothers & Sisters, mentoring programs for disadvantage children, inner city children that live with day-to-day violence. No that means they would have to get off their lazy asses and be productive. Instead, they will do nothing productive and reap the benefits of those who are. NBC should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this. We watch sports so that for just a few moments we can forget about all that troubles us and enjoy friendly competition. In short, the name was never meant to offend and should stay.

**Canofbier** · 10-14-2013, 10:34 AM

Honestly, I don't understand what all the outrage in this thread is about.

I'm politically moderate and don't have strong feelings one way or the other about the Redskins' name, but I really don't think that Costas said anything that unreasonable.

He mentioned that the majority of Native American-themed mascots are positive references to the culture. He acknowledged the fact that most people (Native Americans included) don't really take offense to the name "Redskins".

The main point he made was that Chief Wahoo and the Redskins are anachronisms, and I think he's right. Despite the innocent origins of the teams decades ago, there's no way that a new team in this day and age would adopt a name like the Redskins or a mascot like Chief Wahoo.

Essentially, he poses the open question: if the only reason to keep the name/mascot around is tradition (when clearly the name/mascot is asynchronous with modern society), is that reason enough?

If nothing else, it's a notion worth considering.

**Canofbier** · 10-14-2013, 10:35 AM

I'll add that with or without Costas, SNF is by far my favorite football broadcast of the week.

Deberg_1990 · 10-14-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cwhocares

I applaud Mr. Snyder for standing his ground. This is his team and he alone needs to make the decision, as he already has. Don't succumb to the outside pressure of a very few. If people are upset about the name and want to protest, don't buy any of the merchandise and don't go to the games. That would hit every business man where it hurts.The name has been used for the team for over 80 years and now it's an issue? I don't think so. Why don't all of those BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS put their energy into something that will net positive results like Big Brothers & Sisters, mentoring programs for disadvantage children, inner city children that live with day-to-day violence. No that means they would have to get off their lazy asses and be productive. Instead, they will do nothing productive and reap the benefits of those who are. NBC should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this. We watch sports so that for just a few moments we can forget about all that troubles us and enjoy friendly competition. In short, the name was never meant to offend and should stay.

MOhillbilly · 10-14-2013, 10:39 AM

I don't tune into to sports to hear political rants.

WhiteWhale · 10-14-2013, 10:48 AM

He's stating the obvious.

ThaVirus · 10-14-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Meh. It IS racist. Redskins is at least. Names like Chiefs or Indians would be stupid to change though, as they are clearly not Racist.

Personally, i don't care if they change it or not, but lets not sit here and pretend that it's not a racist word.

LALALALA SHUT UP I CANT HEAR YOU

stevieray · 10-14-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Race Card native

Shhhhhhhhhh, the angry white guys are getting frothy. Let them have their internet rage.

You're as white as those you claim to stereotype.

stevieray · 10-14-2013, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Meh. It IS racist. Redskins is at least. Names like Chiefs or Indians would be stupid to change though, as they are clearly not Racist.

Personally, i don't care if they change it or not, but lets not sit here and pretend that it's not a racist word.

..the term Redskins was started by traders because ...wait for it..WOMEN were offended by the term "scalps".

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10-14-2013, 10:20 AM	#46
ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4274563	Meh. It IS racist. Redskins is at least. Names like Chiefs or Indians would be stupid to change though, as they are clearly not Racist. Personally, i don't care if they change it or not, but lets not sit here and pretend that it's not a racist word.
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10-14-2013, 10:29 AM	#50
Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $7293101	He makes some good talking points. It is the only team that's name doesn't have any kind of positive twist to it. I would view a team that was named the cowboys to be nothing at all while another team named the honkeys or crackers would be hard to say the same thing for. At least he's not Peter King who now views himself a better person than most because he doesn't use it in his articles and show anymore.
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10-14-2013, 10:31 AM	#51
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10-14-2013, 10:34 AM	#52
cwhocares Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $8650068	I applaud Mr. Snyder for standing his ground. This is his team and he alone needs to make the decision, as he already has. Don't succumb to the outside pressure of a very few. If people are upset about the name and want to protest, don't buy any of the merchandise and don't go to the games. That would hit every business man where it hurts.The name has been used for the team for over 80 years and now it's an issue? I don't think so. Why don't all of those BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS put their energy into something that will net positive results like Big Brothers & Sisters, mentoring programs for disadvantage children, inner city children that live with day-to-day violence. No that means they would have to get off their lazy asses and be productive. Instead, they will do nothing productive and reap the benefits of those who are. NBC should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this. We watch sports so that for just a few moments we can forget about all that troubles us and enjoy friendly competition. In short, the name was never meant to offend and should stay.
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10-14-2013, 10:34 AM	#53
Canofbier ¡RIOS MIO! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Minneapolis Casino cash: $5996981	Honestly, I don't understand what all the outrage in this thread is about. I'm politically moderate and don't have strong feelings one way or the other about the Redskins' name, but I really don't think that Costas said anything that unreasonable. He mentioned that the majority of Native American-themed mascots are positive references to the culture. He acknowledged the fact that most people (Native Americans included) don't really take offense to the name "Redskins". The main point he made was that Chief Wahoo and the Redskins are anachronisms, and I think he's right. Despite the innocent origins of the teams decades ago, there's no way that a new team in this day and age would adopt a name like the Redskins or a mascot like Chief Wahoo. Essentially, he poses the open question: if the only reason to keep the name/mascot around is tradition (when clearly the name/mascot is asynchronous with modern society), is that reason enough? If nothing else, it's a notion worth considering.
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10-14-2013, 10:35 AM	#54
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10-14-2013, 10:48 AM	#57
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