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Old 04-04-2024, 08:43 PM  
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So Just What Do We All Want Stadium-Wise?
This is a Chiefs board, so I know and expect to see some obvious bias toward the Chiefs over the Royals in this forum. This is weighted even moreso towards the Chiefs favor due to their incredible run over the past six years.

I know we all love the Chiefs, but there are a lot of Royals fans too. KC has historically been a very, very good sports town, and great host for the Chiefs and Royals. Weird that the teams never seem to be good at the same time, though maybe that will change if BWJr and the boys in blue can get something going during what is now the Mahomes Era.

But I digress... sorry, I get long-winded sometimes. What do we all want stadium-wise going forward? Enough of this sky is falling horseshit where both teams are getting their ducks in a row to get the hell out of KC. I don't buy that for a second. Maybe you don't agree, that's fine. But I really want to know what the people of this board would like to see happen, because there will be another vote within the next year or two with future proposals. So what do we want these proposals to ideally be?
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Old 04-05-2024, 01:54 PM   #121
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As for what I want in a stadium, here's my list.

1. Easily accessible via subway or light rail or other large scale people movers. Or even better (for me) walkable from hotels. Maybe even close to the airport, though I recognize that's a niche need for me.

2. Stuff to do before the game that's better than walking laps on the concourse. A team history museum is nice, but you need at least two hours of activity that's not static for repeat visitors. Per Post 105, it doesn't have to be in the stadium itself. It can be across the parking lot, and doesn't even need to be football-oriented if the private sector just wants to make a big mall/entertainment area within walking distance.

3. Big TVs in the concession areas. We're talking big TVs. Big ones.

4. Individual urinals. We live in the 21st century.

5. More leg room in the seats would be nice, though I recognize that's a tradeoff with visibility.

6. A little radiant heating in the concrete below the seats would be nice.

7. Unique and recognizable architecture. When you tune in on television, you instantly know it's Arrowhead.

I think that's my main list.
I have yet to hear a single rational argument for why urinals are better than troughs in stadiums.

Shouldn't the point of a stadium bathroom to be to get as many people in and out as quickly as possible? Troughs are obviously far more efficient than urinals. Why would I want to spend more time away from my seat? Because troughs are icky?

WTF?
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Old 04-05-2024, 01:56 PM   #122
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I have yet to hear a single rational argument for why urinals are better than troughs in stadiums.

Shouldn't the point of a stadium bathroom to be to get as many people in and out as quickly as possible? Troughs are obviously far more efficient than urinals. Why would I want to spend more time away from my seat? Because troughs are icky?

WTF?
Eh, I value my privacy. I'm willing to wait a bit for that.
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Old 04-05-2024, 01:58 PM   #123
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Eh, I value my privacy. I'm willing to wait a bit for that.
Maybe it's just because I'm hanging 8 inches, but i've never felt insecure about someone else getting a glance of my schlong in a bathroom.
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Old 04-05-2024, 02:09 PM   #124
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I have yet to hear a single rational argument for why urinals are better than troughs in stadiums.

Shouldn't the point of a stadium bathroom to be to get as many people in and out as quickly as possible? Troughs are obviously far more efficient than urinals. Why would I want to spend more time away from my seat? Because troughs are icky?

WTF?
This is exactly the correct take.
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Old 04-05-2024, 02:25 PM   #125
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I have yet to hear a single rational argument for why urinals are better than troughs in stadiums.

Shouldn't the point of a stadium bathroom to be to get as many people in and out as quickly as possible? Troughs are obviously far more efficient than urinals. Why would I want to spend more time away from my seat? Because troughs are icky?

WTF?
Because we are civilized men, and civilized men do not urinate in front of other civilized men. Ever since we donned our first sabretooth loincloths, we have gone to an isolated creek bed or slot canyon to do our business, away from others in the tribe. I don't know why, but I'm sure there's a good reason for that.
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Old 04-05-2024, 02:44 PM   #126
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I have yet to hear a single rational argument for why urinals are better than troughs in stadiums.

Shouldn't the point of a stadium bathroom to be to get as many people in and out as quickly as possible? Troughs are obviously far more efficient than urinals. Why would I want to spend more time away from my seat? Because troughs are icky?

WTF?
Arrowhead has individual urinals now and it seems to me like people get in and out of the restroom much faster than the days of the trough.

Can't do this anymore, though.
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Old 04-05-2024, 02:49 PM   #127
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Maybe it's just because I'm hanging 8 inches, but i've never felt insecure about someone else getting a glance of my schlong in a bathroom.
Are you sure it's not closet homosexuality? You like men looking at your dick.
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Old 04-05-2024, 03:19 PM   #128
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Are you sure it's not closet homosexuality? You like men looking at your dick.
I did consider that, but the one time last year I had sex with another man I didn’t really feel anything.

So I’m definitely not gay.
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Old 04-05-2024, 03:27 PM   #129
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Royals stay within the region (Johnson-Jackson County). Chiefs stay where they are.

Obviously just update the necessities as needed for Arrowhead so it doesn't feel out of date. It doesn't need a giant ****ing Jumbotron but obviously little improvements where it's needed.

Royals clearly have their own plan and desire for what they want in a ballpark/where they want to go, and I'm not a mega-fan of theirs, so I have no strong feelings for what I'd want from them.
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Arrowhead has individual urinals now and it seems to me like people get in and out of the restroom much faster than the days of the trough.

Can't do this anymore, though.
They have troughs up where my tickets are.
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The Royals should really re-consider the downtown stadium concept.

This isn’t the 1990’s anymore… downtown isn’t filled with workers in offices who will be in close proximity to attend 81 home baseball games.
Yeah only 25k live downtown this ain't 1990 anymore!
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Yeah only 25k live downtown this ain't 1990 anymore!
Compared to how many in Johnson County?

Or the Northland?

The calculus for a downtown stadium is people work nearby and are in close proximity to attend an 81 game home schedule.

Are people working in downtown office space in the same #s or at the same frequency as they were 20 years ago?
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They have troughs up where my tickets are.
Ah, okay. Didn’t realize that was still a thing. Feeling elitist now cause my section has standard urinals and I just assumed everyone did. At least you still have the slip n slide.
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Compared to how many in Johnson County?

Or the Northland?

The calculus for a downtown stadium is people work nearby and are in close proximity to attend an 81 game home schedule.

Are people working in downtown office space in the same #s or at the same frequency as they were 20 years ago?
Johnson County has a total population of 619k
KCMO alone has a population of 509k

A downtown stadium would have a higher population radius than where the Speedway is in KCK or Southern JoCo
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