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[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't think that point can be emphasized enough. Alex Smith doesn't throw to receivers unless they clear about 5 yards from coverage. He just doesn't. And the scheme is designed around creating space inside the short and intermediate zones. Thomas will probably have as great or greater an impact on the offense as any of the receivers would have for those reasons alone. In this scheme with this quarterback probably the best thing that can happen is Kelce getting and staying healthy and catching 50 or 60 balls down the seam Brent Celek style. This is like the Al Saunders days, where receivers are decoys and blockers first, pulling coverage away from the middle of the field, the offense runs through the tailback and the primary idea is creating mismatches through formation and motion.

I wanted/expected a receiver as much as anyone but the reality is it wouldn't have turned this offense or the guy behind center into anything other than what they are, and it may not have given us any more from the receiver position than what we'll get with who we already have. At least not after Cooks was gone.

Great post, and I understand and agree with your take as well as Parker's.

But as I pointed out earlier, I'm looking further down the road and have a problem with the scheme itself.

When JC is gone in 2 years, or when/if this current regime gets run out of town, there are going to be some dark days on offense.

This scheme can work when you revolve it around guys like Westbrook, Shady and JC. Without them, your offense is garbage - and it's not exactly easy to find those types of players.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Great post, and I understand and agree with your take as well as Parker's.

But as I pointed out earlier, I'm looking further down the road and have a problem with the scheme itself.

When JC is gone in 2 years, or when/if this current regime gets run out of town, there are going to be some dark days on offense.

This scheme can work when you revolve it around guys like Westbrook, Shady and JC. Without them, your offense is garbage - and it's not exactly easy to find those types of players.

The bold isn't happening for at least the next 5 years, at minimum, assuming nothing outlandish comes out about Reid or Dorsey.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The bold isn't happening for at least the next 5 years, at minimum, assuming nothing outlandish comes out about Reid or Dorsey.

Yep.

There would have to be a colossal collapse for that to happen. Hell, without the Belcher incident, Pioli might not have been fired.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Great post, and I understand and agree with your take as well as Parker's.

But as I pointed out earlier, I'm looking further down the road and have a problem with the scheme itself.

It's a concern but it is what it is. Andy Reid isn't going to change his scheme. That was part of the deal in bringing him here. We all knew this was coming.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

When JC is gone in 2 years, or when/if this current regime gets run out of town, there are going to be some dark days on offense.

This scheme can work when you revolve it around guys like Westbrook, Shady and JC. Without them, your offense is garbage - and it's not exactly easy to find those types of players.

They're not getting run out of town anytime soon. And as long as they're here, I don't think it's much of a concern. As much as you say it's not easy to find guys like Westbrook and Shady, Andy Reid has always somehow managed to have a guy like that in his offense. If there's one thing I'm SURE he knows, it's that position.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The bold isn't happening for at least the next 5 years, at minimum, assuming nothing outlandish comes out about Reid or Dorsey.

Agree.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's a concern but it is what it is. Andy Reid isn't going to change his scheme. That was part of the deal in bringing him here. We all knew this was coming.

Agree.

So bottom line, we all sit around hoping JC never gets hurt and AR is able to replace one of the most talented backs in the game.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So bottom line, we all sit around hoping JC never gets hurt and AR is able to replace one of the most talented backs in the game.

He not only replaced Westbrook, he UPGRADED the position.

I realize getting better than Charles is wholly unrealistic but again, if there's one thing I trust Reid with, it's the RB position.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Agree.



Agree.

So bottom line, we all sit around hoping JC never gets hurt and AR is able to replace one of the most talented backs in the game.

You're discounting Knile Davis too much IMO, I thought he acquitted himself very nicely in Indy... productive both catching and running.

If he can stay healthy dudes gonna be a good one, he has speed to spare at nearly 230 pounds.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

When JC is gone in 2 years, or when/if this current regime gets run out of town, there are going to be some dark days on offense.

Please. Reid has always found somebody. Whoever comes after JC probably won't be as dynamic, but I'm sure he will be fine. Early in Reid's Philly career, he had guys like Duce Staley and Correll Buckhalter.

It's silly to worry about stuff 2 or 3 years down the road. So much can change so fast in the NFL.