Who the **** is Jacoby ****ing Ford?

[siberian khatru]

I mean, WTF?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

It takes focus to make a catch like that. Not talent. Talent gets you in position to catch the ball, but the mind (focus) is what brings it in. A 12 year old could have caught that pass at full focus. But he wouldn't have had the talent to create the separation. Bowe has the talent, just never the focus in key moments.

That's just wrong. It's just 100% wrong.

That was a talent catch. Focus brings in the simple slant route on 3rd and short. Focus hauls in that deep pass when you have 3 or 4 steps. Focus is what keeps your mind from getting in your own way when you have a moment or two to recognize the gravity of the situation you're facing.

Focus has absolutely nothing to do with a timing route thrown to your back shoulder when you're sliding to the ground below a defender. That's all talent.

That catch was a talent catch - you're seeing what you want to see.

[JBL]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

commas. Use them.

Talent your team needs to use it.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by JBL

I did he won the game for the Raiders and put the Chiefs in their place. You all have been living in a dream world for quite a while and he helped to give you a wake up call. Even with the softest schedule in the league you won't sniff the playoffs.

And you were too big a pussy to join the Planet until AFTER your team won.

Pussy. That's what you are. A low-down, trolling PUSSY.

And you won't show up again unless and until the Raiders beat the Chiefs again. You ****ing pussy.

Put us in our place? Your team was 4-4 and you STILL didn't join the Planet to talk shit to the Chiefs fans UNTIL your team won.

Pussy. Which is something you are, but not what you get.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's just wrong. It's just 100% wrong.

That was a talent catch. Focus brings in the simple slant route on 3rd and short. Focus hauls in that deep pass when you have 3 or 4 steps. Focus is what keeps your mind from getting in your own way when you have a moment or two to recognize the gravity of the situation you're facing.

Focus has absolutely nothing to do with a timing route thrown to your back shoulder when you're sliding to the ground below a defender. That's all talent.

That catch was a talent catch - you're seeing what you want to see.

Ditto. You can believe that catching that pass requires talent and not focus. But I'll believe that catching always requires focus, rather than talent. Talent is in the body. Focus is in the mind. The mind controls the arms and hands, and Bowe misplaced his hands when he misjudged the pass as being too low. His hands went too low, the ball went through his arms higher than he thought.

[DJ's left nut]

Baseball's probably the best example of this kind of thing phenomenon.

Tony Pena Jr. would kick the easiest groundballs you'd ever see. Then he'd turn around and make some stunning diving catch up the middle to start a double play.

The E on the grounder was a lack of focus - the dude had time to think and his brain got in the way. He wasn't able to block out the externalities and finish off the play. Meanwhile, the diving play was a talent play - it all happened to fast for him to get in his own way.

That catch was a talent catch. Bowe wasn't in the open field looking to haul in an easy first down. It wasn't obvious that he was going to get a good look on that ball. He turned, saw the ball and just couldn't get his hands closed in time.

C'mon - there was nowhere near enough time for him to trip over himself there. It wasn't focus, it was skill.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by JBL

Talent your team needs to use it.

Hey, we agree.

But still, don't be a troll if your gonna stick around here. Leave now or stick around the entire season.

[Iowanian]

Go easy on the raider trolls. They're used to coming in to clean up after the party.

This isn't the first night they've used their faces to sponge up a glory hole wall.

[JBL]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

And you were too big a pussy to join the Planet until AFTER your team won.

Pussy. That's what you are. A low-down, trolling PUSSY.

And you won't show up again unless and until the Raiders beat the Chiefs again. You ****ing pussy.

Put us in our place? Your team was 4-4 and you STILL didn't join the Planet to talk shit to the Chiefs fans UNTIL your team won.

Pussy. Which is something you are, but not what you get.

You sure like using that p word dontcha? Is it because it's something you wish you had?

Keep whining and crying because I love the taste of your tears.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Ditto. You can believe that catching that pass requires talent and not focus. But I'll believe that catching always requires focus, rather than talent. Talent is in the body. Focus is in the mind. The mind controls the arms and hands, and Bowe misplaced his hands when he misjudged the pass as being too low. His hands went too low, the ball went through his arms higher than he though.

So it's your position that, for a WR, talent begins and ends at how fast he can run?

His ability to catch the ball is based purely on his 'focus'?

C'mon - the ability to catch the football is a talent. The ability to put your hands where your eyes think they should go is an innate skill. Hand-eye coordination, hand-speed and physical dexterity are physical talents.

No amount of additional focus there was going to get Bowe to close his arms faster. His mind didn't get in his way, his hands did. The same hands that have been inconsistent throughout his entire college and pro career.

He doesn't have the hand-eye coordination or physical dexterity to be one of those guys that brings that ball in every time. That's just all there is to it.

[JBL]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Hey, we agree.

But still, don't be a troll if your gonna stick around here. Leave now or stick around the entire season.

Oh I plan to stick around a while just to hear you all. Much love

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by JBL

Oh I plan to stick around a while just to hear you all. Much love

Stick around in January too.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by JBL

Oh I plan to stick around a while just to hear you all. Much love

The adults are speaking.

Shut the **** up.

[Iowanian]

Originally Posted by JBL

Oh I plan to stick around a while just to hear you all. Much love

Now hear this: Perform a marital act upon whomever raised you in lieu of your absentee baby hatch and prison bound sperm donor.

[googlegoogle]

Talent = playmaking.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So it's your position that, for a WR, talent begins and ends at how fast he can run?

His ability to catch the ball is based purely on his 'focus'?

C'mon - the ability to catch the football is a talent. The ability to put your hands where your eyes think they should go is an innate skill. Hand-eye coordination, hand-speed and physical dexterity are physical talents.

No amount of additional focus there was going to get Bowe to close his arms faster. His mind didn't get in his way, his hands did. The same hands that have been inconsistent throughout his entire college and pro career.

He doesn't have the hand-eye coordination or physical dexterity to be one of those guys that brings that ball in every time. That's just all there is to it.

This could go in circles all day. We're gonna have to agree to disagree. People have different views on life. I'll leave it at that.