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duncan_idaho · 09:30 AM

With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository.

To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985.

25-man RosterAvailable HERE

AL Central Standings:

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Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects

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**DeezNutz** · 07-22-2014, 10:10 AM

Also, lack of strikezone awareness is as much about scouting as it is about development. Seitzer claims that it can be developed to a point, but that your eye for the zone is established by about the soph. year in college (or I'd assume equivalent time in the minors, though he didn't specify in this regard).

**petegz28** · 07-22-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Also, lack of strikezone awareness is as much about scouting as it is about development. Seitzer claims that it can be developed to a point, but that your eye for the zone is established by about the soph. year in college (or I'd assume equivalent time in the minors, though he didn't specify in this regard).

On 810 this morning they said we are the 3rd or 4th worst team for swinging at pitches out of the strike zone.

siberian khatru · 07-22-2014, 10:15 AM

Moore says the team does not plan to be deadline sellers. “We’re going to keep pushing until the standings say that we’re done.”
— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) July 22, 2014

**gblowfish** · 07-22-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

On 810 this morning they said we are the 3rd or 4th worst team for swinging at pitches out of the strike zone.

Hey, at least we excel at SOMETHING....

siberian khatru · 07-22-2014, 10:24 AM

#Royals' Moore on trade rumors: "We're not just one hitter away...we've got a lot of holes right now."
— Jeffrey Flanagan (@jflanagankc) July 22, 2014

Christ, then how can you have faith this team's gonna compete?

Moore: "I’m accountable for this . . . I don’t blame the players. I don’t blame coaches. I don’t blame managers. I don’t blame ownership."
— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) July 22, 2014

Great. Now define "accountable." How should we hold you accountable for this? By losing your job?

**DeezNutz** · 07-22-2014, 10:24 AM

Going down with the ship. Good times for fans.

Could help the club now and in the future, but the soon-to-be-fired mother****er is more concerned about his job than the welfare of the club.

**ChiTown** · 07-22-2014, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

#Royals' Moore on trade rumors: "We're not just one hitter away...we've got a lot of holes right now."
— Jeffrey Flanagan (@jflanagankc) July 22, 2014

Christ, then how can you have faith this team's gonna compete?

Moore: "I’m accountable for this . . . I don’t blame the players. I don’t blame coaches. I don’t blame managers. I don’t blame ownership."
— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) July 22, 2014

Great. Now define "accountable." How should we hold you accountable for this? By losing your job?

Are you ****ing kidding me? So.........

1.) We aren't sellers until the standings say we are out of it, meaning middle September, when you can't sell to anyone at that point

2. We are more than one player away, which means he's justifying why they won't make a deal for just one player who could help out

3. He's accountable, but the organization won't really hold anyone accountable for this ****ing mess.

#beingroyally****edsincenovember1985

**gblowfish** · 07-22-2014, 10:33 AM

Edgar needs to give GMDM a big ole spankin!

**petegz28** · 07-22-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Are you ****ing kidding me? So.........

1.) We aren't sellers until the standings say we are out of it, meaning middle September, when you can't sell to anyone at that point

2. We are more than one player away, which means he's justifying why they won't make a deal for just one player who could help out

3. He's accountable, but the organization won't really hold anyone accountable for this ****ing mess.

#beingroyally****edsincenovember1985

No kidding...it' snot Butler's fault he can't hit, run, field, throw

Sure-Oz · 07-22-2014, 10:35 AM

GMDM is going to try and save his ass. Keep losing royals

duncan_idaho · 07-22-2014, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

#Royals' Moore on trade rumors: "We're not just one hitter away...we've got a lot of holes right now."
— Jeffrey Flanagan (@jflanagankc) July 22, 2014

Christ, then how can you have faith this team's gonna compete?

Moore: "I’m accountable for this . . . I don’t blame the players. I don’t blame coaches. I don’t blame managers. I don’t blame ownership."
— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) July 22, 2014

Great. Now define "accountable." How should we hold you accountable for this? By losing your job?

Those quotes at least lower my level of concern regarding moral hazard and our friend Dayton Moore. He seems unlikely to sell off too much for a small return.

Best case scenario would be Moore stepping away without making any major moves to acquire talent.

Keep whoever the Royals have working in Latin America, and the people that have been working with the pitching prospects since they canned Rick Knapp. Everything else is flushable.

New GM would inherit a hell of a lot more at MLB and in the minors than Dayton More did.

**Nzoner** · 07-22-2014, 10:40 AM

What a cluster**** all I can do is

because it's better than

**DeezNutz** · 07-22-2014, 10:40 AM

The "good news" is that the team isn't on life support. It's now officially mediocre, which is indeed better than when Moore arrived.

Because Kansas City.

At least we have the Chiefs. FML.

FringeNC · 07-22-2014, 10:41 AM

Earlier in the year, the Royals were somewhat masking their abysmal OPS with timely hitting with runners on. Not anymore. FWIW, for the season they have scored almost exactly the number of runs OPS predicted they would score.

Problem is not hitting with RISP. All teams are streaky. The problem is that our hitters and our hitting approach sucks. Strike zone management is a tool, and our guys don't have enough of it to hit major league pitching. It's time to flush this old-school, anti-Moneyball turd, Dayton Moore. The guy is a decent to good pitching scout and nothing more.

**ChiTown** · 07-22-2014, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The "good news" is that the team isn't on life support. It's now officially mediocre, which is indeed better than when Moore arrived.

Because Kansas City.

At least we have the Chiefs. FML.

As I have stated before, I'll take ****ing awful, before I'll settle for mediocrity. The Royals are the Chiefs, except the Chiefs have massive Playoff FAIL, and the Royals just FAIL to make the Playoff's.....

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1750308	2014 Royals Repository With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository. To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985. 25-man RosterAvailable HERE AL Central Standings: Link Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects Spoiler! 1) 3B Hunter Dozier ETA: 2015 Dozier started slowly at A+ Wilmington but caught fire in May and June, earning a mid-season promotion to AA Northwest Arkansas. Big, strong kid with good plate discipline skills and solid power who projects to be an above-average glove at 3B with solid power. 2) SS Raul (Adalberto) Mondesi ETA: 2017 Mondesis is the opposite of Dozier…. Started red-hot at Wilmington before back spasms derailed him for a few weeks and hasn’t gotten it going since coming back. Scouting reports have been great – defense and speed both improved over the offseason. Still a chance to be an elite SS, with 40 SB speed, plus glove, .300 average and some pop. 3) LHP Sean Manaea \| ETA: 2015 Scouting reports outperform the stat line so far. Missing a ton of bats at A+ but not preventing runs like you’d expect to see. Needs to work deeper into games (gradually working about an inning deeper/month so far this year) and improve control. Walks are biggest concern right now, but could be elevated due to work on extra off-speed offerings. Still has No. 2 starter potential, could be higher if the great control he exhibited before his hip surgery eventually comes back. 4) RHP Kyle Zimmer\| ETA: 2015 Should be NO. 1 on the list and is probably the Royals most VALUABLE current prospect, but he hasn’t thrown a ball in 4-5 weeks and had only been throwing for 2-3 weeks when he was shut down then. 5) LHP Brandon Finnegan\| ETA: 2015 Top 2014 draft choice is an undersized lefty who will start at A+ Wilmington after anchoring CWS run for TCU. Good fastball, better slider, change that needs work to stick as a starter, but if he sticks, No. 2/No. 3 starter upside. Likely a top 10 or even top 5 pick if he doesn’t miss 1 start in the middle of the college season as a precautionary move. 6) RHP Miguel Almonte\| ETA: 2016 Have heard some say Almonte is more advanced as a pitcher at A+ than Yordano Ventura was (comparison because both were cheap signs out of Latin America). Really advanced changeup and a curve that is working out well (where the ‘more advanced’ comment comes from). Fastball velo is good but not great – 92-94. Like Manaea, working on his second-best offspeed pitch and leaning less on his bread-and butter (changeup), which has hurt his numbers a bit. 7) RHP Christian Binford 2017 Reverse case of “don’t just scout stat lines.” Based on his stats at A+, you’d think he was an elite prospect, but there are questions about Binford’s stuff playing up at higher levels. Tall righty with great command of fastball, slider and a good and still developing changeup. None of those pitches profiles as better than average, though, limiting his likely upside to back-end rotation guy. 8) SS Orlando Calixte\| ETA: 2016 I still like him more than many. Good combination of SS/MI skills and power. Started hot at NWA but in a slump at moment. 9)LHP Foster Griffin \| ETA: 2019 Tall, projectable lefty taken in 2014 draft. Viewed as a great value in the sandwich round and probably would have been KC’s pick at No. 17 if Finnegan hadn’t fallen. High school arm who is going to take a while to develop. 10) RF Jorge Bonifacio\| ETA: 2016 Hasn’t hit as well as expected in his second go-round at AA NWA. Power still sapped, and average skills have dipped. Once looked like he might be an option in RF at some point in 2015, now looks like 2016 is optimistic. Still young for his level. 11) 3B/2B Cheslor Cuthbert\| ETA: 2016 Cuthbert has had better luck at NWA than Boni and is also extremely young for level. HE’s been moved to 2B since Dozier was promoted, which could put a new spin on Cuthbert’s prospects. If he sticks at 2B, bat plays up much better. Good OBP/plate discipline and solid power, but needs to continue improving contact skills 12) C Chase Vallot\| ETA: 2020 Young (just 17) C with tremendous power. One of the top prep bats and a great value for KC where it got him. If he sticks at C, expect him to move slowly, but the bat may force the issue (or force him to another position). 13) C Zane Evans\| ETA: 2017 GA Tech product has handled Wilmington better than most RH bats and probably is in line for a promotion to NWA sometime soon. Decent pop, decent skills behind the plate. Could be a nice reserve catcher. 14) RHP Scott Blewett\| ETA: 2020 Tall, projectable righty with a fresh arm but some injury concerns on his shoulder that slipped him out of Round 1 of MLB draft. Big time potential. 15) CF Bubba Starling \| ETA: Bubba Starling has great tools. Bubba Starling (still) can’t hit. That’s all I have to say about that. 16) 1B Samir Duenez\| ETA: I still like him, even though the attempt to run him through full season ball at 17 did not go well. 17)LF/RF Elier Hernandez\| ETA: Hernandez still pops up in scouting reports but still is very raw and toolsy. 18) RHP Pedro Fernandez\| ETA: Pop-up player on the same track as Ventura and Almonte. Similar signing, similar profile. One to watch over next few years. 19) SS Marten Gasparini\| ETA: Royals’ most expensive international signing likely moves to CF eventually, but his speed and athleticism are intriguing abilities. Early reports from complex ball are very positive on him. 20) RHP Niklas Stephenson\| ETA: Interesting pop-up candidate who found 10 more MPH on his fastball by using a weighted ball during workouts over the winter. Now sits mid-90s with fastball and is dominating at rookie ball (after having an ERA over 8 there a year ago). Likely promoted to a higher challenge soon. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-01-2014 at 09:30 AM..
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07-22-2014, 10:15 AM	#7533
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $2544950	Moore says the team does not plan to be deadline sellers. “We’re going to keep pushing until the standings say that we’re done.” — Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) July 22, 2014
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07-22-2014, 10:24 AM	#7535
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $2544950	#Royals' Moore on trade rumors: "We're not just one hitter away...we've got a lot of holes right now." — Jeffrey Flanagan (@jflanagankc) July 22, 2014 Christ, then how can you have faith this team's gonna compete? Moore: "I’m accountable for this . . . I don’t blame the players. I don’t blame coaches. I don’t blame managers. I don’t blame ownership." — Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) July 22, 2014 Great. Now define "accountable." How should we hold you accountable for this? By losing your job?
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07-22-2014, 10:33 AM	#7538
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07-22-2014, 10:40 AM	#7542
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07-22-2014, 10:41 AM	#7544
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1796014	Earlier in the year, the Royals were somewhat masking their abysmal OPS with timely hitting with runners on. Not anymore. FWIW, for the season they have scored almost exactly the number of runs OPS predicted they would score. Problem is not hitting with RISP. All teams are streaky. The problem is that our hitters and our hitting approach sucks. Strike zone management is a tool, and our guys don't have enough of it to hit major league pitching. It's time to flush this old-school, anti-Moneyball turd, Dayton Moore. The guy is a decent to good pitching scout and nothing more.
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