NFL Draft Countdown seems to think we need a CB as well...

htismaqe · 02-14-2006, 09:12 PM

1) Cornerback
Improvement was made but they still need another top corner.

2) Defensive Tackle
This team lacks a difference maker on the interior.

3) Wide Receiver
Eddie Kennison is getting older and they don't have a true #1.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/fea...needs.html#kcc

jspchief · 02-15-2006, 08:32 AM

You'll have a hard time convincing me that we're going to upgrade over Warfield with the 20th pick in the draft.

The average age of our safeties is something like 28. Not only do we need the youth, we need an upgrade at FS that could be found at the 20th pick.

BigChiefFan · 02-15-2006, 08:42 AM

I think CB is ALWAYS a smart move because there are at least FOUR on every team. With injuries and FA, having a good nucleus of CBs is a wise move, but I definitely think we should look at improving the secondary later in the draft, unless Jimmy Williams is sitting there at 20. Even then, I have my reservations going CB at 20.

HolmeZz · 02-15-2006, 12:11 PM

I think we need to improve at corner too. We overrate Warfield. I'd be happy taking Youboty at #20.

htismaqe · 02-15-2006, 12:16 PM

I don't have a problem drafting depth at CB. But we've tied up way too much of the cap at that position already.

No way would I take one in the 1st round.

milkman · 02-15-2006, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

I think we need to improve at corner too. We overrate Warfield. I'd be happy taking Youboty at #20.

So to say that Warfield is a solid #2 corner is overrating him?

While I'm not against drafting CB in the first, if he's the BAA, I have to believe that someone at another position of more need will be there that also qualifies as BAA, or a least a close second best.

HolmeZz · 02-16-2006, 01:02 AM

Solid sometimes. But to act as if we couldn't improve upon him is overrating him.

jspchief · 02-16-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Solid sometimes. But to act as if we couldn't improve upon him is overrating him.

I don't think we could improve on him this year with a rookie taken at the #20 spot. Or I guess I should say that I think it's highly unlikely.

Very few rookie CBs make an immediate impact. Even the most highly touted ones usually end up as nickelbacks at best in their rookie year.

We have two or three young CBs that we have been developing that are probably as likely to take Warfield's spot as a rookie would be.

Mecca · 02-16-2006, 06:35 AM

From what I've seen, most people that aren't fans of the Chiefs don't think Eric Warfield is very good. They look at our list and think "they have Surtain and no one else at corner." In a way that's probably not a horrible view.

Benny Sapp for as much as everyone around here seems to love him, shouldn't be more than a 4-5th on the depth, situational corner that plays special teams. McCleon and Washington will likely both be let go,Washington had a nice year last year but I wouldn't expect him back.

So that opens 2 spots, Alphonso Hodge can take one. I'm not so sure we wouldn't be better off cutting Warfield and going with a younger guy there. Or atleast moving him to FS and getting rid of Wesleys horrible ass.

I'm hoping there's atleast 1 new starter in that secondary, if there's not, I'll be a little upset.

BigChiefFan · 02-16-2006, 08:09 AM

I think some of you are forgetting Julian Battle was slated to be a STARTER last year before his injury. CB isn't as big of a need as some of the media would lead you to believe.

Chiefnj · 02-16-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I think some of you are forgetting Julian Battle was slated to be a STARTER last year before his injury. CB isn't as big of a need as some of the media would lead you to believe.

He was slated to be a starter because Warfield was suspened, McLEon was banged up and there was nobody else. It doesn't mean he's any good.

BigChiefFan · 02-16-2006, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

He was slated to be a starter because Warfield was suspened, McLEon was banged up and there was nobody else. It doesn't mean he's any good.

I tend to agree that Warfield being suspended probably helped Battle win the starting job, but is still doesn't negate that he was slated to be the starter and will be back next season.

NCarlsCorner2 · 02-17-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

You'll have a hard time convincing me that we're going to upgrade over Warfield with the 20th pick in the draft.

The average age of our safeties is something like 28. Not only do we need the youth, we need an upgrade at FS that could be found at the 20th pick.

how about Antonio Cromartie, you dont think that he would be an upgrade.

Kclee · 02-18-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NCarlsCorner2

how about Antonio Cromartie, you dont think that he would be an upgrade.

I see what you're saying but I don't know if you can take a risk like that with the 20th pick. Did he even play last year? He has great size and I guess we'll see what kind of speed he has at the combine. It will be interesting to see where he goes in the draft. Maybe with the second pick the Chiefs draft...

Mr. Laz · 02-18-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't have a problem drafting depth at CB. But we've tied up way too much of the cap at that position already.

No way would I take one in the 1st round.

we could if warfield became our free safety

our safety position is just all screwed up

wesley - not really a free safety, doesn't seem real smart. new contract

woods - old,hurt and slow. new contract

Bartee -

lots of money tied up in guys who aren't good enough

02-14-2006, 09:12 PM
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02-15-2006, 08:42 AM	#3
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HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	I think we need to improve at corner too. We overrate Warfield. I'd be happy taking Youboty at #20.
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I don't have a problem drafting depth at CB. But we've tied up way too much of the cap at that position already. No way would I take one in the 1st round.
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HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	Solid sometimes. But to act as if we couldn't improve upon him is overrating him.
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02-15-2006, 08:32 AM	#2
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	You'll have a hard time convincing me that we're going to upgrade over Warfield with the 20th pick in the draft. The average age of our safeties is something like 28. Not only do we need the youth, we need an upgrade at FS that could be found at the 20th pick.
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02-16-2006, 06:35 AM	#9
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2587050	From what I've seen, most people that aren't fans of the Chiefs don't think Eric Warfield is very good. They look at our list and think "they have Surtain and no one else at corner." In a way that's probably not a horrible view. Benny Sapp for as much as everyone around here seems to love him, shouldn't be more than a 4-5th on the depth, situational corner that plays special teams. McCleon and Washington will likely both be let go,Washington had a nice year last year but I wouldn't expect him back. So that opens 2 spots, Alphonso Hodge can take one. I'm not so sure we wouldn't be better off cutting Warfield and going with a younger guy there. Or atleast moving him to FS and getting rid of Wesleys horrible ass. I'm hoping there's atleast 1 new starter in that secondary, if there's not, I'll be a little upset.
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02-16-2006, 08:09 AM	#10
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	I think some of you are forgetting Julian Battle was slated to be a STARTER last year before his injury. CB isn't as big of a need as some of the media would lead you to believe. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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