Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 182

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Sure-Oz · 12-01-2013, 11:46 AM

Curious how the winter meetings will go, will beltran sign with someone before then?

Infidel Goat · 12-01-2013, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

I'm in the minority I guess of the wait and see crowd. At least hoping that Vargas is someone they spotted that the staff noticed a minor change in his mechanics or something like that would be a tremendous difference maker and he will do well. At least I can hope and then see how things progress come this spring.

Here's the quick fix: changing-up-may-help-vargas-help-royals/

**alnorth** · 12-01-2013, 08:59 PM

Well, now we've got an explanation for why Getz hasn't gotten his ass cut yet. Emilio Bonifacio is drawing trade interest. We aren't looking to trade Bonifacio, but we're going to tender Getz at the non-tender deadline and keep him around as insurance in case some deal emerges where it makes sense to ship off Bonifacio.

**alnorth** · 12-01-2013, 09:00 PM

By the way, the winter meetings run this Tuesday through Friday. DM always does something at the winter meetings. Be afraid.

BigCatDaddy · 12-01-2013, 09:44 PM

Anyone follow Vargas much this year? Someone was telling me he was on fire at the first of the season, but had some weird injury and wasn't the same when he came back. However, he started to pick it back up again towards the end of the season.

Mama Hip Rockets · 12-01-2013, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Hughes has the higher ERA

fixed your post

**alnorth** · 12-01-2013, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman

fixed your post

not really, you screwed my post up beyond all recognition. This was discussed at length a while ago.

If you want to talk about ERA, Santana had 5.16 in 2012. His problem was an absurd number of home runs; fly balls which did not go out in spacious Kauffman Stadium.

Phil Hughes pitched in the focused jet stream known as the New Yankee Stadium. This flyball pitcher's problem was, not surprisingly, home runs. Away from home, he looked a hell of a lot better. The Yankees have to have only groundball pitchers because of their park.

tk13 · 12-02-2013, 11:59 AM

Looks like the Royals have let Chris Getz go. End of an era.

ChiefsCountry · 12-02-2013, 12:03 PM

**alnorth** · 12-02-2013, 12:05 PM

THE ROYALS NON-TENDERED GETZ!

A move which everyone in the world knew that the Royals obviously needed to make... was done! The Royals didn't screw up! DM successfully made a remedial-level baseball decision! We won't see the worst 2nd baseman in baseball!

Huzzah!

Sure-Oz · 12-02-2013, 12:05 PM

Prof athlete ftw

**alnorth** · 12-02-2013, 12:06 PM

If we hadn't non-tendered Getz, we would have paid his worthless ass over a million dollars this season.

I'm sure he's a nice guy and loves puppies and all that, but I hate seeing him on my team.

Mama Hip Rockets · 12-02-2013, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

THE ROYALS NON-TENDERED GETZ!

A move which everyone in the world knew that the Royals obviously needed to make... was done! The Royals didn't screw up! DM successfully made a remedial-level baseball decision! We won't see the worst 2nd baseman in baseball!

Huzzah!

Yes!

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-02-2013, 01:02 PM

Huzzah!!

**gblowfish** · 12-02-2013, 02:05 PM

What about his wife? Can we keep his wife???

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1710308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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12-01-2013, 08:59 PM	#2718
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	Well, now we've got an explanation for why Getz hasn't gotten his ass cut yet. Emilio Bonifacio is drawing trade interest. We aren't looking to trade Bonifacio, but we're going to tender Getz at the non-tender deadline and keep him around as insurance in case some deal emerges where it makes sense to ship off Bonifacio. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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12-01-2013, 09:00 PM	#2719
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	By the way, the winter meetings run this Tuesday through Friday. DM always does something at the winter meetings. Be afraid. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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12-01-2013, 09:44 PM	#2720
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $1979122	Anyone follow Vargas much this year? Someone was telling me he was on fire at the first of the season, but had some weird injury and wasn't the same when he came back. However, he started to pick it back up again towards the end of the season.
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12-02-2013, 11:59 AM	#2723
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1942500	Looks like the Royals have let Chris Getz go. End of an era.
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12-02-2013, 12:05 PM	#2725
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	THE ROYALS NON-TENDERED GETZ! A move which everyone in the world knew that the Royals obviously needed to make... was done! The Royals didn't screw up! DM successfully made a remedial-level baseball decision! We won't see the worst 2nd baseman in baseball! Huzzah! __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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12-02-2013, 12:06 PM	#2727
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	If we hadn't non-tendered Getz, we would have paid his worthless ass over a million dollars this season. I'm sure he's a nice guy and loves puppies and all that, but I hate seeing him on my team. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
Posts: 36,130

12-02-2013, 01:02 PM	#2729
Fansy the Famous Bard I'm with the Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $2336440	Huzzah!! __________________ Hi.
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12-02-2013, 02:05 PM	#2730
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17666178 VARSITY	What about his wife? Can we keep his wife???
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