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duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

penbrook · 12-11-2013, 04:19 PM

Mets just signed Bartolo Colon to a two year deal.

**alnorth** · 12-11-2013, 04:22 PM

More details now out, MLB is basically going to do the same thing as college baseball. If it is close, the runner must slide, and the catcher must tag.

WhawhaWhat · 12-11-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

More details now out, MLB is basically going to do the same thing as college baseball. If it is close, the runner must slide, and the catcher must tag.

Now they should get rid of charging the mound, managers arguing calls and batters stepping out of the box if the pitcher has his foot to the rubber.

C3HIEF3S · 12-11-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Mets just signed Bartolo Colon to a two year deal.

Sounds like 2/20, pending physical.

**alnorth** · 12-11-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Now they should get rid of charging the mound, managers arguing calls and batters stepping out of the box if the pitcher has his foot to the rubber.

The umpire can already do something about all of those things. Until today, blowing up the catcher was perfectly legal.

penbrook · 12-11-2013, 04:27 PM

Royals are the favorite to land Infante. He wants a four year deal worth north of 8 mil a year.

C3HIEF3S · 12-11-2013, 04:28 PM

I'm not too terribly depressed about collisions at the plate being gone. The catcher is defenseless, even with the padding on.

Just watch this video of Posey getting injured back in 2011:

...now imagine that being Salvador Perez in his place.

siberian khatru · 12-11-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Sounds like 2/20, pending physical.

I predict they'll find out that he's fat.

siberian khatru · 12-11-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Breaking news: Home plate collisions will be banned in 2014.

Not clear yet what the in-game enforcement will be, but players could be disciplined by MLB for doing it. It also goes both ways, catchers can't block the plate, and runners also can't go after the catcher if they can reasonably get to the plate.

Ray Fosse says, "What took you so long?"

penbrook · 12-11-2013, 05:13 PM

Per Bob Dutton

#Royals GM Dayton Moore: "We like our team. We’re certainly going to look for ways to improve, but we’re not close to anything."

Reading between the lines: My owner won't let me spend any money.

WhawhaWhat · 12-11-2013, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

The umpire can already do something about all of those things. Until today, blowing up the catcher was perfectly legal.

They can already do something like throw them out of the game, but they should add suspensions without pay to get rid of the behavior altogether. They are a waste of time.

Sure-Oz · 12-11-2013, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook

Per Bob Dutton

#Royals GM Dayton Moore: "We like our team. We’re certainly going to look for ways to improve, but we’re not close to anything."

Reading between the lines: My owner won't let me spend any money.

Could be playing it close to the vest as well.

Strongside · 12-11-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Could be playing it close to the vest as well.

Or our team is just owned by the Glass family.

tk13 · 12-11-2013, 10:09 PM

Okay then.

I'm told to count the #Tigers in on FA pitcher Ervin Santana. Nothing there w/ the #MNTwins because of the draft pick compensation involved.
— Darren Wolfson (@DarrenWolfson) December 11, 2013

penbrook · 12-11-2013, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

Okay then.

I'm told to count the #Tigers in on FA pitcher Ervin Santana. Nothing there w/ the #MNTwins because of the draft pick compensation involved.
— Darren Wolfson (@DarrenWolfson) December 11, 2013

****ing Santana being a traitor

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1710308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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