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View Poll Results: Who would win this potential Natl Championship game between KSU vs Crimson Tide ?
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:52 PM   #1
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I agree 'Bama is going to win, but this isn't the reason why. I wonder if both coaches would perform the same if Saban had Snyder's level of talent and Snyder got Saban's. Snyder is amazing in the coaching realm.
Someone else already touched on this. Saban > Snyder.
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:16 PM   #2
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I agree 'Bama is going to win, but this isn't the reason why. I wonder if both coaches would perform the same if Saban had Snyder's level of talent and Snyder got Saban's. Snyder is amazing in the coaching realm.
This has always been a ridiculous talking point. Especially from the reeruned aspect of our EMAW brethren.

Coaching IS recruiting. Mack Brown gets a ridiculous amount of criticism because he recruits well and doesn't win the Big XII every year. Same with Rick Barnes. They are both great coaches. And the argument that coach x could do so much more with others talent, discounts the aspect recruiting plays in making a great coach.

Saban is great because he gets a ton of talent on campus and closes the deal. Snyder doesn't recruit well, nor do his staff. But there is still a TON of talent at key positions. The best talent has come through transfers. Plus, EMAW has a real leader at the most important position.
Several weeks ago one of the phogtards said the talent level between KU and KSU was virtually the same. That the entire difference was coaching. Needless to say, that person just regugitates a talking point that has been repeated so often, it's taken as gospel.

Can the EMAW make it through to the MNC? Sure. But we are also just good enough to lose anywhere along the way. I'm here for the ride.

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Old 10-21-2012, 03:18 PM   #3
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The talent level from the SEC teams like LSU, Florida, Bama are so far above and beyond what K-State currently puts on the field that it's not really comparable.
Exactly. And it PROVES Snyder is the better coach.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:22 PM   #4
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:26 AM   #5
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K-State beat an Oklahoma team that looks pretty talented.

I don't know how they would do against Alabama, but I think they'd have a shot.
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:27 AM   #6
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K-State beat an Oklahoma team that looks pretty talented.

I don't know how they would do against Alabama, but I think they'd have a shot.
No shot.
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:41 PM   #7
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The fact that you believe that K-State's defense is as good as Bama's is an example of why I hate k-state fans.

When I got here in 98 I'd never been around fans who thought so much of their team. I kept asking if I was missing something. If I was in a coma for a few decades and k-state had won a handful of national championships or something. But no, that wasn't it. It's really that k-state fans are just simply reeruned.

Bama, Florida, LSU right now would walk all over K-State like it was a scrimmage. I know you guys don't see that because of putting up points on some shit team like WV but Bama would just CRUSH K-state. I mean massacre.
You're a ****ing idiot.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:40 PM   #8
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Florida, LSU right now would walk all over K-State like it was a scrimmage.
No way. No K-State fan, but if Texas A&M can play them close with a worse QB, there is no reason to think K-State would get outclassed.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:47 PM   #9
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No way. No K-State fan, but if Texas A&M can play them close with a worse QB, there is no reason to think K-State would get outclassed.
someone is gonna play bama close this year too, that isn't supposed to. I'm talking about law of averages. K-State doesn't field the same level of talent that those SEC teams do. Never have, never will.
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:02 PM   #10
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someone is gonna play bama close this year too, that isn't supposed to. I'm talking about law of averages. K-State doesn't field the same level of talent that those SEC teams do. Never have, never will.
Do you really think that Texas A&M is better than K-State?

Texas A&M nearly beat both LSU and Florida this year.
To me, that signifies that K-State would in all likelihood be competitive with both of those teams, regardless of "talent level". If talent was everything, the Raiders would be monsters.

You said that LSU and Florida would spank K-State. K-State is better than Texas A&M. Texas A&M played both teams close, so it isn't just a fluke thing. Your argument is dumb.
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The fact that you believe that K-State's defense is as good as Bama's is an example of why I hate k-state fans.

When I got here in 98 I'd never been around fans who thought so much of their team. I kept asking if I was missing something. If I was in a coma for a few decades and k-state had won a handful of national championships or something. But no, that wasn't it. It's really that k-state fans are just simply reeruned.

Bama, Florida, LSU right now would walk all over K-State like it was a scrimmage. I know you guys don't see that because of putting up points on some shit team like WV but Bama would just CRUSH K-state. I mean massacre.
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Bama. Snyder has done an incredible job at KState, both times. Just amazing.

KState will never get the talent level and recruits that Bama, LSU, Florida, USC, Texas, etc gets. Just not gonna happen. In a lot of ways, Snyder is the best coach in the country for that reason.
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If bama sweeps the SEC and beats fla in the champ game they will be tuff to beat
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If bama sweeps the SEC and beats fla in the champ game they will be tuff to beat
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