Chiefs As a QB prospect coming out of college, Geno Smith is greater than...? - Page 5

**RealSNR** · 04-11-2013, 10:46 PM

Poll forthcoming.

Remember, we're talking about these players as prospects. I don't care what has happened to Jay Cutler or Brady Quinn or Aaron Rodgers. If you think those QBs had more to work with as potential pros, then check them off.

RunKC · 04-12-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Yeah, those six picks he threw all year are a real deal breaker.

He had bad games for him against K-State and Texas Tech. The Syracuse game was a pretty average game by anyone's standards, but a poorly called game by his coordinator.

The guy equaled RGIII's production his last year in college minus the rushing yards, but only has himself to blame. Makes zero sense whatsoever.

Basically half of his overall TD's were in the first 4 games against mostly weak teams, then he had a fantastic game against Texas.

The problem was after that. He looked terrible the next 2 weeks, then solid against TCU, good and bad against OU (he should have have had 3 or 4 INT's in that game) and then just looked like an average joe QB the rest of the way.

I still believe Tavon Austin was just as big of a reason for WVU's success as Geno was.

Reminds me of how Percy Harvin made Tim Tebow look so incredible at Florida in 2008.

**ptlyon** · 04-12-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

What do all of those QBs I listed have in common?

Theyre not Todd Blackledge?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-12-2013, 01:26 PM

Jesus, RunKC you are and idiot. "looked bad against OU". Idiot.
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ayleswbj · 04-12-2013, 01:33 PM

Also 150 more att, more career TD's, 600 more rushing YDS. Daniel exact height as drew Brees. 2 inch taller than Russel Wilson. Also won more games in college.

B14ckmon · 04-12-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

You've really embraced this troll personna. Applause for you.

Not sure what you mean. A lot of people are thinking Geno to the Jaguars now. No one thinks the Chiefs will take him.

RunKC · 04-12-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Not sure what you mean. A lot of people are thinking Geno to the Jaguars now. No one thinks the Chiefs will take him.

That can't possibly be right. Sweet Dick Willie says we are taking Geno and he is the greatest QB prospect the world has ever seen!

B14ckmon · 04-12-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

That can't possibly be right. Sweet Dick Willie says we are taking Geno and he is the greatest QB prospect the world has ever seen!

I wouldn't worry about Sweet Dick Willie. He only has 13 days left on this earth.

ayleswbj · 04-12-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

42 TD and 6 picks versus 39 TD and 18 picks.

Yep, they're the same.

Not to mention one of them is about 4'9.

Were talking about as far as prospects go, Im pointing out what these offenses can make a QB look like. Had Geno put these numbers up in a pro style offense in the SEC, then I wouldnt even write on the board except to say take this guy or fold the fanchise. Fact is he is just a good prospect. you can lose on him just as easily win. Inflated numbers, just like the rest of em. He isnt even as athletic as chase was, or maybe he is, but he sure didnt show in on the field.

**RealSNR** · 04-12-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

Were talking about as far as prospects go

Yes, we are.

You're not.

**RealSNR** · 04-12-2013, 02:19 PM

Nick Foles, Brandon Weeden, and Graham Harrell came from the same college systems. They put up roughly equal stats.

Weeden went in the first. He's also 3000 years old.

Foles went in the 4th. His stats weren't as impressive as the other two, but is thus far (arguably) having the most successful NFL career.

Harrell went undrafted.

Compare that, ya dick.

KC native · 04-12-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Basically half of his overall TD's were in the first 4 games against mostly weak teams, then he had a fantastic game against Texas.

The problem was after that. He looked terrible the next 2 weeks, then solid against TCU, good and bad against OU (he should have have had 3 or 4 INT's in that game) and then just looked like an average joe QB the rest of the way.

I still believe Tavon Austin was just as big of a reason for WVU's success as Geno was.

Reminds me of how Percy Harvin made Tim Tebow look so incredible at Florida in 2008.

TCU shut Geno down similar to how K State did. You are a moron.

ayleswbj · 04-12-2013, 02:31 PM

Really, Im not? what are you saying. Then what makes him a better prospect to be a Pro than these other guys? Combine numbers? College numbers? say something, When your talking about is he a better prospect to be a pro. Point out that Daniels always had to fight the height argument. Had he been 6'2 or 6'3 he would have been just as big prospect. His numbers and the Conference he played in, i give way more credit to Chase's career than i do Geno's career. Take Gabbert for instance, a Rivals 5 star prospect. Had his choice of anywhere. Rated the top Pro style qb coming out. Chose to play in a spread offense. Didnt really have that superstar career most thought as highly touted prospect, but his size and athleticism got him drafted really high. Having trouble right now adjusting to the game.

Geno's pedigree coming out of high school was just the same as Chase, didnt get the big offers he wanted and settled for a different school. Put up astonishing numbers in a spread offense and a super weak conference. as a prospect I dont put him ahead of alot of these guys. You only had to watch Cutler play one game in college to know he could sling the rock. Geno not so much, he has huge questions surrounding him and rightfully so. More QBs coming from the spread have failed than succeeded. It is just a fact. A few got it right of the bat, but most are long out of the league. Geno's predecessor Pat White included in this mix.

blaise · 04-12-2013, 02:32 PM

Browning Nagle.

ayleswbj · 04-12-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Nick Foles, Brandon Weeden, and Graham Harrell came from the same college systems. They put up roughly equal stats.

Weeden went in the first. He's also 3000 years old.

Foles went in the 4th. His stats weren't as impressive as the other two, but is thus far (arguably) having the most successful NFL career.

Harrell went undrafted.

Compare that, ya dick.

And this is the QB you want to take #1 overall, someone who is just as good as Grahm Harrell, Weedon and Foles? Thats a deep dark place your livin in. What are you even saying? Thought you wanted to talk prospects

**RealSNR** · 04-12-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

And this is the QB you want to take #1 overall, someone who is just as good as Grahm Harrell, Weedon and Foles? Thats a deep dark place your livin in. What are you even saying? Thought you wanted to talk prospects

No. He's better than those three. You're the one who's extrapolating based on bullshit.

View Poll Results: As a QB prospect coming out of college, Geno Smith is better than...
Chad Pennington	68	57.14%
Michael Vick	16	13.45%
David Carr	46	38.66%
Joey Harrington	55	46.22%
Patrick Ramsey	85	71.43%
Carson Palmer	23	19.33%
Byron Leftwich	71	59.66%
Kyle Boller	89	74.79%
Rex Grossman	82	68.91%
Eli Manning	8	6.72%
Philip Rivers	17	14.29%
Ben Roethlisberger	23	19.33%
Alex Smith	35	29.41%
Aaron Rodgers	14	11.76%
Jason Campbell	79	66.39%
Vince Young	53	44.54%
Matt Leinart	63	52.94%
Jay Cutler	32	26.89%
JaMarcus Russell	57	47.90%
Brady Quinn	76	63.87%
Matt Ryan	22	18.49%
Joe Flacco	38	31.93%
Matt Stafford	13	10.92%
Mark Sanchez	61	51.26%
Josh Freeman	59	49.58%
Sam Bradford	29	24.37%
Tim Tebow	85	71.43%
Cam Newton	22	18.49%
Jake Locker	70	58.82%
Blaine Gabbert	72	60.50%
Christian Ponder	81	68.07%
Andrew Luck	4	3.36%
Robert Griffin III	7	5.88%
Ryan Tannehill	57	47.90%
Brandon Weeden	73	61.34%
Geno Smith isn't better than any of these QBs	12	10.08%
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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2340208	Nick Foles, Brandon Weeden, and Graham Harrell came from the same college systems. They put up roughly equal stats. Weeden went in the first. He's also 3000 years old. Foles went in the 4th. His stats weren't as impressive as the other two, but is thus far (arguably) having the most successful NFL career. Harrell went undrafted. Compare that, ya dick.
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04-12-2013, 02:31 PM	#72
ayleswbj Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10005287	Really, Im not? what are you saying. Then what makes him a better prospect to be a Pro than these other guys? Combine numbers? College numbers? say something, When your talking about is he a better prospect to be a pro. Point out that Daniels always had to fight the height argument. Had he been 6'2 or 6'3 he would have been just as big prospect. His numbers and the Conference he played in, i give way more credit to Chase's career than i do Geno's career. Take Gabbert for instance, a Rivals 5 star prospect. Had his choice of anywhere. Rated the top Pro style qb coming out. Chose to play in a spread offense. Didnt really have that superstar career most thought as highly touted prospect, but his size and athleticism got him drafted really high. Having trouble right now adjusting to the game. Geno's pedigree coming out of high school was just the same as Chase, didnt get the big offers he wanted and settled for a different school. Put up astonishing numbers in a spread offense and a super weak conference. as a prospect I dont put him ahead of alot of these guys. You only had to watch Cutler play one game in college to know he could sling the rock. Geno not so much, he has huge questions surrounding him and rightfully so. More QBs coming from the spread have failed than succeeded. It is just a fact. A few got it right of the bat, but most are long out of the league. Geno's predecessor Pat White included in this mix.
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