Seattle Times: Chiefs could be as bad as San Diego was last year... - Page 2

DaWolf · 05-12-2001, 07:29 PM

LOL. So much for the new coaching staff getting any respect. Same old story from an AFC West rival city, Chiefs being underestimated as usual. Seems cities we sweep get especially bitter.

Anyway, thought it was funny they had their predictions in and it's not even June 1 yet. Nice to see they have such faith in Hasselbeck. Nice to also see they didn't do their homework and have our 2000 record at 8-8. IMO, if Gun does not go 6-10, and if this team and this coaching staff is such an improvement from Gun's staff, there is no way we finish 6-10 unless we have devestating injuries. It's cool though. We were predicted to go 6-10 in '97 and we went 13-3, Vermiel was predicted to go 5-11 in his Super Bowl year, we'll see...

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Raiders: 11-5
Seahawks: 10-6
Broncos: 9-7
Chargers: 8-8
Chiefs: 6-10

[quote]Kansas City Chiefs

2000 finish/record: Tied for third/8-8.

2001 projection: Fifth/6-10.

What's new: Coach Dick Vermeil and a new coaching staff including offensive coordinator Al Saunders (St. Louis) and defensive coordinator Greg Robinson (Denver); CB Taje Allen (St. Louis); QB Bubby Brister (Minnesota); CB Ray Crockett (Denver); QB Trent Green (St. Louis); RB Priest Holmes (Baltimore); WR Tony Horne (St. Louis); DE Rich Owens (Miami); P Dan Stryzinski (Atlanta); WR Chris Thomas (St. Louis); C Casey Wiegmann (Chicago).

What's missing: RB Kimble Anders, RB Donnell Bennett, TE Troy Drayton, LB Ron George, QB Elvis Grbac, C Tim Grunhard, CB James Hasty, WR Kevin Lockett, DT Chester McGlockton, QB Warren Moon, DT Ty Parten, P Todd Sauerbrun, G Dave Szott.

Drafted: 3a. DT Erick Downing (Syracuse); 3b. WR Marvin "Snoop" Minnis (Florida State); 4a. DE Monty Beisel (Kansas State); 4b. George Layne (Texas Christian); 5a. TE Billy Baber (Virginia); 5b. RB Derrick Blaylock (Stephen F. Austin); 6. G Alex Sulfsted (Miami, OH); 7a. DB Shaunard Harts (Boise State); 7b. DT Terdell Sands (Tenn.-Chattanooga).

Still need: Reserve help in the backfield and along the offensive line.

Summary: If the Chiefs aren't lucky, they could suffer a fate similar to San Diego last season. Green will have to win games by himself, because Kansas City still has a limited running game and the offensive line is suspect. The defense isn't good enough to keep opponents under 20 points and Vermeil will need time to turn the Kansas City offense into the one he had in St. Louis. [/quote]

Otter · 05-13-2001, 07:12 AM

No argument there Milkman.

yoswif · 05-13-2001, 09:23 AM

It is reasonable to assume we would have gone 10-6 or 11-5 last year with competent coaching. The receiving corp is at least as good as last year when we were 5th in the league in yards/passing attempt. Spears, or any o-lineman with more athletic ability than a tree stump, would be an upgrade over Blackshear. We lose more in leadership from Grunhard's retirement than ability and dependability. Shields now has to earn his check in the lockerroom as well as the playing field. I think he'll do both well. Green, assuming he plays as much, is an upgrade over Grbac at starting qb. Brister is younger and, from mini-camp reports, better than Moon. Holmes, in addition to TRich, in our new two back, split back offense gives us two rb's with high per touch averages, and a willingness and ability to block, in the same backfield. This should dramatically improve one of the worst run offenses in the league, both in yards per game, 25th, and yards per rushing attempt, 22nd. If we can dramatically improve our run offense with a two back, split back scheme, which forces defenses to defend both of our running backs instead of just the feature back, while maintaining our 5th ranked yards/attempt pass offense, we should be able to possess the ball and score early touchdowns a lot better than we did last year. That's the best way to protect our suspect defense and give them an opportunity to play with a lead. Last year we only scored 50 points in the first quarter. I expect much better this year. If we increase our yards/rush attempt rank to top 10 without losing our top 5 rank in yards/pass attempt average (not unreasonable), get better special teams play (not unreasonable), and improved tackling and fewer penalties on defense (not unreasonable), it's not unreasonable to expect a 10-6 or 11-5 record.

05-13-2001, 09:23 AM	#17
yoswif Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	It is reasonable to assume we would have gone 10-6 or 11-5 last year with competent coaching. The receiving corp is at least as good as last year when we were 5th in the league in yards/passing attempt. Spears, or any o-lineman with more athletic ability than a tree stump, would be an upgrade over Blackshear. We lose more in leadership from Grunhard's retirement than ability and dependability. Shields now has to earn his check in the lockerroom as well as the playing field. I think he'll do both well. Green, assuming he plays as much, is an upgrade over Grbac at starting qb. Brister is younger and, from mini-camp reports, better than Moon. Holmes, in addition to TRich, in our new two back, split back offense gives us two rb's with high per touch averages, and a willingness and ability to block, in the same backfield. This should dramatically improve one of the worst run offenses in the league, both in yards per game, 25th, and yards per rushing attempt, 22nd. If we can dramatically improve our run offense with a two back, split back scheme, which forces defenses to defend both of our running backs instead of just the feature back, while maintaining our 5th ranked yards/attempt pass offense, we should be able to possess the ball and score early touchdowns a lot better than we did last year. That's the best way to protect our suspect defense and give them an opportunity to play with a lead. Last year we only scored 50 points in the first quarter. I expect much better this year. If we increase our yards/rush attempt rank to top 10 without losing our top 5 rank in yards/pass attempt average (not unreasonable), get better special teams play (not unreasonable), and improved tackling and fewer penalties on defense (not unreasonable), it's not unreasonable to expect a 10-6 or 11-5 record.
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05-12-2001, 07:29 PM
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	LOL. So much for the new coaching staff getting any respect. Same old story from an AFC West rival city, Chiefs being underestimated as usual. Seems cities we sweep get especially bitter. Anyway, thought it was funny they had their predictions in and it's not even June 1 yet. Nice to see they have such faith in Hasselbeck. Nice to also see they didn't do their homework and have our 2000 record at 8-8. IMO, if Gun does not go 6-10, and if this team and this coaching staff is such an improvement from Gun's staff, there is no way we finish 6-10 unless we have devestating injuries. It's cool though. We were predicted to go 6-10 in '97 and we went 13-3, Vermiel was predicted to go 5-11 in his Super Bowl year, we'll see... [url]http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis/web/vortex/display?slug=caps08&date=20010508[/url] Raiders: 11-5 Seahawks: 10-6 Broncos: 9-7 Chargers: 8-8 Chiefs: 6-10 [quote]Kansas City Chiefs 2000 finish/record: Tied for third/8-8. 2001 projection: Fifth/6-10. What's new: Coach Dick Vermeil and a new coaching staff including offensive coordinator Al Saunders (St. Louis) and defensive coordinator Greg Robinson (Denver); CB Taje Allen (St. Louis); QB Bubby Brister (Minnesota); CB Ray Crockett (Denver); QB Trent Green (St. Louis); RB Priest Holmes (Baltimore); WR Tony Horne (St. Louis); DE Rich Owens (Miami); P Dan Stryzinski (Atlanta); WR Chris Thomas (St. Louis); C Casey Wiegmann (Chicago). What's missing: RB Kimble Anders, RB Donnell Bennett, TE Troy Drayton, LB Ron George, QB Elvis Grbac, C Tim Grunhard, CB James Hasty, WR Kevin Lockett, DT Chester McGlockton, QB Warren Moon, DT Ty Parten, P Todd Sauerbrun, G Dave Szott. Drafted: 3a. DT Erick Downing (Syracuse); 3b. WR Marvin "Snoop" Minnis (Florida State); 4a. DE Monty Beisel (Kansas State); 4b. George Layne (Texas Christian); 5a. TE Billy Baber (Virginia); 5b. RB Derrick Blaylock (Stephen F. Austin); 6. G Alex Sulfsted (Miami, OH); 7a. DB Shaunard Harts (Boise State); 7b. DT Terdell Sands (Tenn.-Chattanooga). Still need: Reserve help in the backfield and along the offensive line. Summary: If the Chiefs aren't lucky, they could suffer a fate similar to San Diego last season. Green will have to win games by himself, because Kansas City still has a limited running game and the offensive line is suspect. The defense isn't good enough to keep opponents under 20 points and Vermeil will need time to turn the Kansas City offense into the one he had in St. Louis. [/quote]
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