Chiefs Are there any arguments against trading down, now? - Page 2

HotCarl · 02-27-2013, 04:44 PM

It doesn't seem like there are any. I didn't see anyone normally worthy of a top 5 pick in most drafts, there surely is not if you take out the QB position.

It seems that people feel we won't be able to unload that pick, but with an epic generational talent like Geno Smith available, shouldn't there be a bidding war to get ahead of Oakland, and Jacksonville or anyone who might trade with Jacksonville?

In any case, we should be able to move down to the 10-20 range and scoop up a number of picks.

Is there any case to be made for any player in this draft at #1, versus moving down and getting more picks?

BryanBusby · 02-27-2013, 05:00 PM

The Chiefs have no leverage and if teams are looking to move up, they're just gonna make the just as desperate to move down Jaguars and Chiefs bid against each other to do so.

You're gonna get ass 2 mouth'd just for the sake of moving down by this point.

BlackHelicopters · 02-27-2013, 05:00 PM

Some one will have to dumber than us to trade for our pick. Only takes one stupid GM out of 31, but who will it be. I predict noon is this stupid. We don't know how to play poker.

**Bwana** · 02-27-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

The best argument for not trading down is that we won't find anyone who wants to trade up.

Bingo

Rasputin · 02-27-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Does HotCarl rape his own mother if we trade down?

HotCarl probably sucks his uncles dick as blackbob would suck his uncles dick.

HotCarl blackbob the same person??

HotCarl · 02-27-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

The Chiefs have no leverage and if teams are looking to move up, they're just gonna make the just as desperate to move down Jaguars and Chiefs bid against each other to do so.

You're gonna get ass 2 mouth'd just for the sake of moving down by this point.

Who says the Jaguars are desperate to move down?

That's what they are saying in the press? Well, a few days ago everyone here was posting quotes about how much the Chiefs were in love with Geno, when that was obviously made up, a negotiating ploy, or just plain false.

Jacksonville has benched Gabbert twice. Why would they not be considering Smith at #2?

Hootie · 02-27-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Nobody is going to trade into the first pick. NOBODY

I don't necessarily believe this...

They won't get a Rams haul but they can get value if they try and if a team really wants Geno but won't trade up for him we can take him a la San Diego and trade his rights like they did with Eli.

Wouldn't that be something!? This board would have a parade of joy and then around pick 4 there would be an announced trade and we'd trade Geno and the board would just collectively croak

Fish · 02-27-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

Who says the Jaguars are desperate to move down?

That's what they are saying in the press? Well, a few days ago everyone here was posting quotes about how much the Chiefs were in love with Geno, when that was obviously made up, a negotiating ploy, or just plain false.

Jacksonville has benched Gabbert twice. Why would they not be considering Smith at #2?

We've been hearing for months that none of the QBs are worth it. Why would that all change now?

HotCarl · 02-27-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

HotCarl probably sucks his uncles dick as blackbob would suck his uncles dick.

HotCarl blackbob the same person??

Yes, I am Black Bob, Robert Paulson, Kaiser Soze, AND the cigarette-smoking man.

HotCarl · 02-27-2013, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

We've been hearing for months that none of the QBs are worth it. Why would that all change now?

You can't have it both ways, either Geno is unquestionably worthy of a top 5 pick, and thus any QB-needy team would want him, or other teams are not very high on him either.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 02-27-2013, 05:06 PM

Is this the key to getting to the tournament Carl?

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 02-27-2013, 05:07 PM

Whoever gets annointed the #1 overall either gets embarrassed, out shone or comes down with a medical condition. It's useless.

BryanBusby · 02-27-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

Who says the Jaguars are desperate to move down?

That's what they are saying in the press? Well, a few days ago everyone here was posting quotes about how much the Chiefs were in love with Geno, when that was obviously made up, a negotiating ploy, or just plain false.

Jacksonville has benched Gabbert twice. Why would they not be considering Smith at #2?

Common sense. Are you the ****ing riddler or some shit?

**Rausch** · 02-27-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

You can't have it both ways, either Geno is unquestionably worthy of a top 5 pick, and thus any QB-needy team would want him, or other teams are not very high on him either.

No, either there is NO QB in rounds 1 or 2 that are franchise QB's or the Chiefs see something in Smith that no other NFL team did last year.

It's not about 1 player it's about finding the right player out of 5 or 6 QB's.

If you think there won't be a single franchise QB out of the first two rounds yer' ****ing dense...

Sully · 02-27-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

Jacksonville has benched Gabbert twice.

That's half as many times as Alex Smith! We should trade two #1s for him!!'

-The Chiefs

HotCarl · 02-27-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Common sense. Are you the ****ing riddler or some shit?

Is Gabbert good enough to win the Super Bowl?

is Geno Smith a better QB prospect than Gabbert?

So why wouldn't Jacksonville consider drafting Smith?

02-27-2013, 04:44 PM
HotCarl Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $10004900	Are there any arguments against trading down, now? It doesn't seem like there are any. I didn't see anyone normally worthy of a top 5 pick in most drafts, there surely is not if you take out the QB position. It seems that people feel we won't be able to unload that pick, but with an epic generational talent like Geno Smith available, shouldn't there be a bidding war to get ahead of Oakland, and Jacksonville or anyone who might trade with Jacksonville? In any case, we should be able to move down to the 10-20 range and scoop up a number of picks. Is there any case to be made for any player in this draft at #1, versus moving down and getting more picks?
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