Chiefs My pre-draft wishlist.... what's yours? - Page 5

Kylo Ren · 04-25-2012, 08:06 PM

My wishlist:

LB Luke Kuechly
NT Alameda Ta'amu
QB Kirk Cousins

If the Chiefs were to draft these three guys, the rest would be gravy. But, I don't know how they'll get all three guys in just three rounds. Kuechly may or may not be there at 11. I'm usually an advocate of trading down. But, I don't think they can trade down and still get Kuechly. Ta'amu will have to be taken in the 2nd. But, he may go higher than out 44th pick. And, Cousins may not last to our 3rd round pick. I could see the Chiefs getting 2 of these three, but all 3 would be miracle.

If the Chiefs draft Cousins, I'd be OK with carrying 4 QBs this year. Then, next year, dump Cassel and let Stanzi, Cousins and Brady battle it out. I like the odds of one of those young QBs developing into a good starting QB.

What does your wishlist look like? We can dream, can't we?

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

1. DeCastro 2. Doug Martin and then some QB at some point.

I don't see DeCastro as likely anymore. I give him about 5% odds to be a Chief.

Doug Martin... well. I love him, but I think he's going late 1st.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I'm neither here nor there on Kuechly, while he's not the ferocious heat seeking monster i want at ILB, he's apparently one of the best coverage players at that position to come out in a long time... i could live with it, i guess.

Yes on Ta'amu, he's my vision of the next Wilfork/Hampton/Williams, but who the hell knows what thought process is going on at Arrowhead... they might decide to go Brockers at end, and trust in Powe, Gordon & maybe Gregg to platoon NT... but yeah, i'm sold on Ta'amu as the prototype plug based on what i've watched.

If we take a qb, my gut really says Osweiller, based on what i've seen & heard. Something tells me Pioli see's a little bit of Brady in him.

The Walter mock that royr17 posted the other night was perfect imo, atleast as far as positional breakdown, i thought it was a nice mix & the more i think about it, the more i could get behind DeCastro... that could conceiveably give us a line that could play together completely unchanged for atleast the next 3-4 years.

In the short & sweet, just get players that pan out on some level with every pick... i'm not enough of a draftnik to have locks at every pick, especially this year... all i DEMAND this year is a NT.

edit - i also really want a secret gem of a rb back to hide away on the ps, a do it all type who goes atleast 220... just in case.

Interesting post.

The idea that you need a "heat seeking missile" at SILB is an outdated notion. You need the player you need. Kuechly is basically Jarrod Mayo, a high-contributing, but low-impact player who will make very few plays, but will prevent a bunch of 3-yard runs from turning into 50-yard runs by being in the right place. And, also, playing really good coverage.

Ta'amu isn't prototype. He was never asked to be a prototype plugger in Washington. When draft season started, I was convinced that Ta'amu was more of a 1-gap NT or a 2-gap DE.

Slowly... I changed my mind. But now I've just since reverted. Ta'amu hasn't changed.

I see Osweiler as likely if he falls to the 3rd or 4th. He's a perfect Ryan Mallett type player that the Chiefs can acquire, not to takeover for Cassel but to groom, develop, and trade off for a higher pick.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

1st) David DeCatro, OG Stanford
2nd) Kevin Zeitler, OG Winsconsin
3rd) Brandon Brooks, OG Miami Oh.
4th) Tony Bergstrom, OG Utah
5th) Ryan Miller, OG Colorado
6th) Desmond Wynn, OG Rutgers
7th) Kellen Moore, Super Bowl MVP Boise State
7th) Adam Gettis, OG Iowa (YEAHHHH IOWA PICK HERE GUYS)

I'm willing to bet one of those three guards ends up a Chief:

Miller
Wynn
Gettis

They are tailor made for our scheme. Miller and Gettis especially.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump

trade down and get at least an extra 3rd and get Hightower, DeCastro, Brockers or somebody else.

This is a weak year for picks 10-20 IMO, we're gonna get 2nd round talent with our first pick.

Hightower is a fit.

If we end up in the low 20s, he's a leading candidate.

Of the three you mentioned by name, though, Brockers is far and away the most likely to go at 11.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Horrible. Sorry, but Cousins will never be remotely productive.

Maybe.

But teams love him, personally. They're just not sure if he can play.

So if he falls to something like the 5th, you draft him.

Develop him. Give him some time in the preseason and if he plays his way to the #2 spot, give him the ball when Cassel goes down.

Cousins will never be a franchise QB for this team, but if all this goes down, you can trade him off for a profit in a later year.

That's what the Patriots love to do, it's what Pioli loves to do.

Kylo Ren · 04-26-2012, 08:33 AM

Trade down?

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Round 2 prospects I'd be happy with, in no particular order:

Perry, H. Smith, Zeitler, Hill, Jenkins, Konz, Massie, Weeden, Ta'amu (a reach).

Round 3:
Tru Johnson, Schwartz, Osemele, Chapman, Pead, Illoka, Martin.

I'm of course on the Weeden train for the 2nd round pick.

Ta'amu, Zeitler, Perry, Konz... these players are not fits.

Jenkins is not worth a 2nd rounder anymore. And Hill will be gone by now.

Of the names on your 2nd rounders, I'd take Weeden, then Massie, then Smith.

Of your 3rd rounders, I'd go with Chapman easily. I like Pead and Osemele (who will be gone) a lot, and Schwartz.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Quarterback:
Ryan Tannehill
Kirk Cousins
Brandon Weeden

Runningback:
Doug Martin
Lamar Miller
Ronnie Hillman

Wide Receiver:
Marvin Jones
Marvin McNutt
A.J. Jenkins

Tight End:
Ladarius Green
James Hanna
Drake Dunsmore

Guard:
David DeCastro
Kevin Zeitler
Brandon Washington

Center:
Peter Konz
Ben Jones
David Molk

Nose Tackle:
Alameda Ta'amu
Josh Chapman
Hebron Fangupo

Outside Linebacker:
Shea McClellin
Bruce Irvin
Miles Burris

Inside Linebacker:
Luke Kuechly
Bobby Wagner
Vontaze Burfict

Cornerback:
Josh Robinson
Casey Heyward
Dwight Bentley

Safety:
George Iloka
Markelle Martin
Brandon Hardin

A lot to like there.

But the sooner this board gets off its Burfict kick, the better.

Might not even be drafted, folks.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Highest Wish list:
- Brock Osweiler (Think he just needs time to sit and learn which he'd get here. Has the tools to be our QBOTF)
- Alameda Ta'amu
- A trade down in the 1st. (or out of the 1st entirely to load up ammo for next year on a QB)

Fairly high wish list:
- Marvin McNutt (think he could be a nice big WR value pick)
- Terrance Gannaway (Good #2 power back we could get late. See him in a Michael Bush type of role)
- Nick Foles (3 year starter, consistent #s, big arm, want this guy if we can't get Osweiler)

Indifferent On:
Decastro or Kuechly. Not sure which one we'll get. Either or sounds like they'd serve us well. I can see benefits for either or. Not sure which one I want more.

Do not want:
Kirk Cousins (IMO he doesn't have any special skill set. Solid player. Maybe could be a Trent Green type which is nice but nothing elite. Simply tired of seeing Chief QBs without special tools. I've had my fill.)... Hoping someone else snatches him up before the Chiefs do.

I, too, think people are sleeping on Nick Foles. I like him a lot as a midrounder. I don't know if the Chiefs do, however.

Simply Red · 04-26-2012, 08:37 AM

Drew Brees

Chiefnj2 · 04-26-2012, 08:37 AM

My actual draft wish is that Pioli has Snyder on a table right now with his head in a vice convincing him to give us the #2 pick for 3 firsts and two 2nds.

Frosty · 04-26-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I, too, think people are sleeping on Nick Foles. I like him a lot as a midrounder. I don't know if the Chiefs do, however.

I've been a Foles fan for quite a while. I would be happy with Tannehill, Osweiller or Foles out of this draft. I was kind of intrigued by Cousins after the Senior Bowl, thinking he was a Trent Green type of QB but I agree that the Chiefs already have a player like him in Stanzi. I would rather bet on the potential of the other three.

Frosty · 04-26-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

My actual draft wish is that Pioli has Snyder on a table right now with his head in a vice convincing him to give us the #2 pick for 3 firsts and two 2nds.

Probably have a better chance with the Colts.

Micjones · 04-26-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

A lot to like there.

But the sooner this board gets off its Burfict kick, the better.

Might not even be drafted, folks.

I'd use a 7th on him to avoid fighting other teams for his undrafted services.
We have two of them. Think of how huge it would be if you could get the kid's head on straight. A Top 5 talent for a 7th Round pick? I'd at LEAST draft him and bring him to camp.

Headcase or no headcase...he compares favorably to Ray "Frigging" Lewis.
As a player...I mean.

Simply Red · 04-26-2012, 08:53 AM

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04-25-2012, 08:06 PM
Kylo Ren Grandson of Darth Vader Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Starkiller Base Casino cash: $10015175	My pre-draft wishlist.... what's yours? My wishlist: LB Luke Kuechly NT Alameda Ta'amu QB Kirk Cousins If the Chiefs were to draft these three guys, the rest would be gravy. But, I don't know how they'll get all three guys in just three rounds. Kuechly may or may not be there at 11. I'm usually an advocate of trading down. But, I don't think they can trade down and still get Kuechly. Ta'amu will have to be taken in the 2nd. But, he may go higher than out 44th pick. And, Cousins may not last to our 3rd round pick. I could see the Chiefs getting 2 of these three, but all 3 would be miracle. If the Chiefs draft Cousins, I'd be OK with carrying 4 QBs this year. Then, next year, dump Cassel and let Stanzi, Cousins and Brady battle it out. I like the odds of one of those young QBs developing into a good starting QB. What does your wishlist look like? We can dream, can't we?
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