Chiefs My pre-draft wishlist.... what's yours? - Page 6

Kylo Ren · 04-25-2012, 08:06 PM

My wishlist:

LB Luke Kuechly
NT Alameda Ta'amu
QB Kirk Cousins

If the Chiefs were to draft these three guys, the rest would be gravy. But, I don't know how they'll get all three guys in just three rounds. Kuechly may or may not be there at 11. I'm usually an advocate of trading down. But, I don't think they can trade down and still get Kuechly. Ta'amu will have to be taken in the 2nd. But, he may go higher than out 44th pick. And, Cousins may not last to our 3rd round pick. I could see the Chiefs getting 2 of these three, but all 3 would be miracle.

If the Chiefs draft Cousins, I'd be OK with carrying 4 QBs this year. Then, next year, dump Cassel and let Stanzi, Cousins and Brady battle it out. I like the odds of one of those young QBs developing into a good starting QB.

What does your wishlist look like? We can dream, can't we?

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

I've been a Foles fan for quite a while. I would be happy with Tannehill, Osweiller or Foles out of this draft. I was kind of intrigued by Cousins after the Senior Bowl, thinking he was a Trent Green type of QB but I agree that the Chiefs already have a player like him in Stanzi. I would rather bet on the potential of the other three.

I don't think the Chiefs care that they have Stanzi.

I think they love Stanzi and they want to keep Stanzi. I also think they're happy to throw him into the preseason fire against Quinn to see who comes out on top.

I am certain they will take Cousins if the price is right.

I really don't know how they feel about Foles, he's a hard read. But he carried a lousy offense for years with astonishing accuracy. His complete lack of athleticism doesn't bode well, however, to become a Chief.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I'd use a 7th on him to avoid fighting other teams for his undrafted services.
We have two of them. Think of how huge it would be if you could get the kid's head on straight. A Top 5 talent for a 7th Round pick? I'd at LEAST draft him and bring him to camp.

Headcase or no headcase...he compares favorably to Ray "Frigging" Lewis.
As a player...I mean.

LOL

I think he compares to Ray Lewis off the field.

Micjones · 04-26-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

LOL

I think he compares to Ray Lewis off the field.

That's why I clarified.

ChiefsHawk · 04-26-2012, 08:59 AM

cousins is a poor mans stanzi. hes not as good of n american either

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk

cousins is a poor mans stanzi. hes not as good of n american either

Is anybody?

I'm pretty sure Ricky Stanzi and the guy who shot Bin Laden are neck and neck as the best Americans ever.

Chiefnj2 · 04-26-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I don't think the Chiefs care that they have Stanzi.

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If you believe the book that followed KC/Pats/Atlanta's offseason last year, then you'd feel differently. The book made it seem like they really liked him. They tried to trade up for him a few times.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If you believe the book that followed KC/Pats/Atlanta's offseason last year, then you'd feel differently. The book made it seem like they really liked him. They tried to trade up for him a few times.

Right.

I just mean that I don't think their interest in Cousins will be cooled by the fact that they have Stanzi.

I think it's very likely we head into OTAs with Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi, and Cousins.

Frosty · 04-26-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I really don't know how they feel about Foles, he's a hard read. But he carried a lousy offense for years with astonishing accuracy. His complete lack of athleticism doesn't bode well, however, to become a Chief.

I think he could end up a Matt Ryan type player - not one of the top 5 or 6 QB's but pretty good. Especially if he gets some quality coaching. Stoops sucked.

However, afaik, the Chiefs have only met with Oz, Tannehill, and Cousins (not sure about Weeden) so it's unlikely they are looking at him.

ETA: ...and some small school QB's.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

I think he could end up a Matt Ryan type player - not one of the top 5 or 6 QB's but pretty good. Especially if he gets some quality coaching. Stoops sucked.

However, afaik, the Chiefs have only met with Oz, Tannehill, and Cousins (not sure about Weeden) so it's unlikely they are looking at him.

ETA: ...and some small school QB's.

Hard to tell who they've met with.

I'm more interested in seeing who fits. And I think Cousins fits more than any other QB in this draft.

Foles would be an awkward fit... I don't know.

Frosty · 04-26-2012, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Foles would be an awkward fit... I don't know.

I don't know. He can check down as well as Cassel

but also throw it deep. Our new OC is supposed to like an attacking offense. Cassel and Cousins are kind of noodle armed for that kind of offense.

dilligaf · 04-26-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I don't see DeCastro as likely anymore. I give him about 5% odds to be a Chief.

Doug Martin... well. I love him, but I think he's going late 1st.

Then trade back into the first and pick him up before Denver does. With Cassel as the QB for the foreseeable future, I want the best oline and ground game possible.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

I don't know. He can check down as well as Cassel

but also throw it deep. Our new OC is supposed to like an attacking offense. Cassel and Cousins are kind of noodle armed for that kind of offense.

I remain on the Stanzi train. I think he'd be a great fit for it.

Frosty · 04-26-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I remain on the Stanzi train. I think he'd be a great fit for it.

Well, it's about time that the Chiefs lucked into a franchise QB, but I'm not holding my breath.

**RealSNR** · 04-26-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Right.

I just mean that I don't think their interest in Cousins will be cooled by the fact that they have Stanzi.

I think it's very likely we head into OTAs with Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi, and Cousins.

The thing is... who's the worst QB on that list should the team only decide to keep 3 guys?

It's Cousins. But he won't get cut.

That's not progress. You're not building your QB roster in a good way by doing that.

Direckshun · 04-26-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

The thing is... who's the worst QB on that list should the team only decide to keep 3 guys?

It's Cousins. But he won't get cut.

That's not progress. You're not building your QB roster in a good way by doing that.

I think it was you telling me Stanzi and Quinn are both #2s.

I'm with you on that, if that was you who said it.

Bring in a low-rounder at QB and develop him at the #3 spot.

Pit Quinn and Stanzi against each other in preseason. Winner gets the clipboard. Loser goes elsewhere.

04-25-2012, 08:06 PM
Kylo Ren Grandson of Darth Vader Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Starkiller Base Casino cash: $10015175	My pre-draft wishlist.... what's yours? My wishlist: LB Luke Kuechly NT Alameda Ta'amu QB Kirk Cousins If the Chiefs were to draft these three guys, the rest would be gravy. But, I don't know how they'll get all three guys in just three rounds. Kuechly may or may not be there at 11. I'm usually an advocate of trading down. But, I don't think they can trade down and still get Kuechly. Ta'amu will have to be taken in the 2nd. But, he may go higher than out 44th pick. And, Cousins may not last to our 3rd round pick. I could see the Chiefs getting 2 of these three, but all 3 would be miracle. If the Chiefs draft Cousins, I'd be OK with carrying 4 QBs this year. Then, next year, dump Cassel and let Stanzi, Cousins and Brady battle it out. I like the odds of one of those young QBs developing into a good starting QB. What does your wishlist look like? We can dream, can't we?
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