I'm going to make a lot of you ill with this thread

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

The Alex Smith Experiment

Let it be known, I was in mourning all day yesterday. I had hitched my wagons so tightly to Geno Smith or some other young, QB stud coming out of this year's draft class that I never could bring myself to believe that the brilliant Andy Reid, and John Dorsey would actually trade for Alex Smith. Then they did. And I was crushed. I whined, complained, and proclaimed I could no longer care about this team. But I was born and raised inside the walls of this Kingdom. I could never pack my bags and walk away.

So I started thinking about what all of this meant. The first thing that came to mind was that it was obvious our new leadership didn't see what I saw in this year's crop of field generals. They agreed with the majority of people out there saying there was very, very little to be excited about out of the QB's entering the NFL this year. It also occurred to me that they must have thought very highly of Alex Smith considering the compensation that is being rumored to be given up for him. And I wondered if all the work we put in with Save Our Chiefs last year was in vein.

I mean, we've seen this movie. Over, and over, and over again. This is the 5th 49er retread this franchise has brought in for us over the last 25 years. And the great Joe Montana was the only one that has provided us with a playoff win. So naturally my thought process was “Here we go again! New Chiefs, same as the old Chiefs!”

Then I started doing my homework and watching the last couple of years of Alex Smith. This is a what have you done for me lately league, so I wasn't really worried about his first few years in the league. Coaching changes year after year, and no real continuity was what greeted him to the league. Jim Harbaugh came in and 2011 Alex Smith made some instant strides. I saw some things out of him that have now convinced me that this time the sequel could be better than the original. Here are some reasons I believe Alex Smith can help lead us to the promised land.

1. Leadership. Probably the most important thing a QB has to have, and something that has lacked in KC for the last couple of years. 2012 was a huge indicator of that. The Chiefs didn't believe in their QB and their play reflected it. On both sides of the ball. Alex Smith didn't have a contract with the 49ers the year of the lockout. Yet it was widely reported he still got his hands on Jim Harbaugh's new playbook and organized practices with his teammates. They rallied around him, and the proof is in the pudding. A muffed punt away from the Super Bowl.

2. Clutch. He has it. Tons of it. The biggest indicator was in his first playoff game. Back and forth, and they fell behind with around a minute left in the game. Alex marched them down the field and on a 3rd and 3 with his team in field goal position, he made his best pass of the entire game to score the game winning TD. On the biggest stage of his life. His coach could've easily played it safe and went for over time, but he believed in Alex. And that belief paid off with a win.

3. Field awareness. I watched a lot of tape. When Alex got loose of the pocket and had to scramble, he knew where the first down marker was. I watched him twist, and turn. Take hits, and deliver hits to get to that first down marker. No fetal position from Alex Smith. He went for it. Consistantly.

4. Progressions. I watched him go through progressions when he needed too. I haven't seen a lot of Alex locking onto a guy and just winging it in there regardless of coverage. That said, I've also seen him wing that ball in between two defenders where only his guy can catch the ball. And there's enough strength in his throws that the ball is there before the defender can respond too it.

5. Coaching. It took an elite coach to get the very best out of Alex Smith. And when he received that, he excelled instantaneously. What better coach, or situation could Alex Smith go to right now and replicate that success? There isn't one. This is it. Coach Reid, and our squad has the talent to put around Alex, and the ability to give him further insight, and tutilege to enhance, and grow his game.

6. Intangibles. This guy has a fire burning inside of him right now. He finally, finally got a head coach who was able to work with him, and he learned the system. He took his team to the brink of the Super Bowl and didn't get there due to no fault of his own. The very moment he was hurt, he was yanked, replaced, and watched his team go to the same spot that he himself probably could've led them too. He's the hungriest man in professional football right now, maybe in all of professional sports. He has something to prove, and he has a chip on his shoulder. And the way he conducted himself throughout that entire process as it unfolded last year was the mark of a leader.

7. History. Time and time again we've seen the stats that 1st round QB's win Super Bowls. We have not only a 1st round QB in Alex, but the very first pick in the draft. This is what we all wanted. Not how we envisioned it, but history is now on our side.

So there you have it. I've gone through mourning, and I've done my homework. I believe in our coach, and our new general manager, and I do not believe this in any way, shape, or form is remniscent of Scott *****, and the moves he made when he came to Kansas City. And I think that is truly our biggest fear. Because this move looks SO closely like the one Scooter made when he came to town, that we are all going to be relegated to that kind of failure over the next half decade.

I just don't think so. I think we have a former number 1 overall pick, that was the consensus number 1 at the time. This isn't a guy who backed up Matt Leinart in college. He played, and he played well. And again, this is a what have you done for me lately league. Alex has grown immensely in the last 2-3 years and has shown he has the ability to make the plays, make the throws, use his legs, and win when the game is on the line.

This is the new face of the franchise. Join me in optimism. Let this Kingdom stand tall, and proud, and root our warriors onto victory. We have our field general. And he's proven recently that he has the ability to lead our troops to victory.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Flop, you have me confused with that dickhead Marcus Halberstram. Understandable since we go to the same barber although I have a slightly better haircut.

Patrick has the same haircut.

AP fail.

[Hammock Parties]

The guy throws the ball down the field less than Matt Cassel.

Significantly less.

This is will all end up in tears.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Flop, you have me confused with that dickhead Marcus Halberstram. Understandable since we go to the same barber although I have a slightly better haircut.

My mistake. I had you confused with that ****face Halberstram. My apologies.

[BossChief]

The saving grace of the big picture?

Andy Reid gave Mike Vick a 100 million dollar contract in August of 2011 and benched him in mid 2012 for a rookie third round pick.

He made an equally large investment in Kevin Kolb as we have with Alex Smith and moved on to Mike Vick.

The guy isn't afraid to admit his own mistakes by actions.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Not clutch, he shit his pants in that nfc championship game, I don't care what anybody says.

He was hell a clutch in the game before that, though.

He took apart that saints defense in the fourth quarter.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

He was hell a clutch in the game before that, though.

He took apart that saints defense in the fourth quarter.

Remember when Cassel had the game of his life against the Titans?

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Remember when Cassel had the game of his life against the Titans?

and got benched during it.

[Hammock Parties]

Alex Smith basically NEVER has games like that. But he had ONE and the true fans have been chafing their dicks over it for 48 hours.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Alex Smith basically NEVER has games like that. But he had ONE and the true fans have been chafing their dicks over it for 48 hours.

the fact that you are wrong about most things says it might be better than you say....when you go full throttle for someone, they bust or turn to crap.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

the fact that you are wrong about most things says it might be better than you say....when you go full throttle for someone, they bust or turn to crap.

I'm not wrong. Go look at his damn game logs if you don't believe me. Fewer 300-yard games than Cassel, for ****'s sake.

[NCommand]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

Smart "fan."

FYI: we barely threw b/c we had a dynamic running game with Gore/Hunter and controlled the clock and just bled teams to death. We owned high powered offenses b/c we made their QB sit on the sidelines and watch.

WHEN Alex did have to ball out he usually did (6 come back wins last year alone). He came from a spread offense. His 8.0 YPA is 3rd...to Colin's 8.3. While we lost a lot of experience with CK in there (esp. on the last 4 plays of the Superbowl and RZ), CK had an added element of athleticism that, well, nobody else really has (a couple). His intangibles are off the charts as well. But don't sleep on Alex's mobility either!

Alex will take a sack, he won't make risky throws but in Reid's offense, with a good pass blocking line and a more traditional WCO you could see a much bigger rise in overall numbers. We ran an Anti-WCO in SF. In Reid's offense, you'll have one or two deeper threats, a TE as an option and the RB's as an outlet.

No doubt, he is perfect for Reid's WCO.

As to the rest/most of your fan base in here, threatening to kill each other, referencing Reid's other suicidal kid, AIDS, cheering injured players, etc...sad. Absolutely pathetic and classless. You had many Niner fans willing to come over and support Alex and your team. and give you an objective perspective who know Alex better than anyone. Good luck Alex!

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by NCommand

Smart "fan."

FYI: we barely threw b/c we had a dynamic running game with Gore/Hunter and controlled the clock and just bled teams to death. We owned high powered offenses b/c we made their QB sit on the sidelines and watch.

WHEN Alex did have to ball out he usually did (6 come back wins last year alone). He came from a spread offense. His 8.0 YPA is 3rd...to Colin's 8.3. While we lost a lot of experience with CK in there (esp. on the last 4 plays of the Superbowl and RZ), CK had an added element of athleticism that, well, nobody else really has (a couple). His intangibles are off the charts as well. But don't sleep on Alex's mobility either!

Alex will take a sack, he won't make risky throws but in Reid's offense, with a good pass blocking line and a more traditional WCO you could see a much bigger rise in overall numbers. We ran an Anti-WCO in SF. In Reid's offense, you'll have one or two deeper threats, a TE as an option and the RB's as an outlet.

No doubt, he is perfect for Reid's WCO.

As to the rest/most of your fan base in here, threatening to kill each other, referencing Reid's other suicidal kid, AIDS, cheering injured players, etc...sad. Absolutely pathetic and classless. You had many Niner fans willing to come over and support Alex and your team. and give you an objective perspective who know Alex better than anyone. Good luck Alex!

Great, another game manager QB. I feel so much better now.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by NCommand

You had many Niner fans willing to come over and support Alex and your team. and give you an objective perspective who know Alex better than anyone.

Which is something we never asked for. Besides, we know Alex Smith plenty well. It's not a complicated subject.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by NCommand

We ran an Anti-WCO in SF.

Yeah, the 49ers really resembled a team emphasizing a ZBS and vertical philosophies.


You're a ****ing moron.

[farmerchief]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'm seriously tired of this ****ing bullshit argument.

I did that in 2009 and got the last 4 years as a ****ing reward for doing it. Do you think that the Lions fans sat there and did the whole...."well...he drafted another WR....he knows what he's doing!"? It's a ****ing bullshit argument by the fans who love 8-8 and having fun at a tailgate.

Fool me once....shame on you. Fool me twice....shame on me.

Andy Reid and John Dorsey don't get my undivided devotion. I don't care if people think that's not fair and that I'm not a fan of this team.....but it's the ****ing truth. Unless they draft a QB at #1.....this year is going to be the year that everyone comes back to.

If Geno Smith ends up being a Top 10 QB.....then they failed.
If Matt Barkley ends up being a Top 10 QB.....then they failed.

They had a shot to grab EITHER ONE of those QBs at #1.....and they chose to pass for a 27 year old game manager.

And you know what....I blame the fans for this. I blame the fans because I'm sick and ****ing tired of hearing from this fan base that they don't want to struggle for a year or two with a rookie QB. I blame the fans for being happy with the mediocrity that is 8-8 or 10-6 and getting killed in the 1st round of the playoffs. It's because of fans like that...that we're stuck with retread QBs every few years.

So, if Geno Smith ends up being a Bottom 10 QB,,,,then they succeeded?
If Matt Barkley ends up being a Bottom 10 QB,,,,then they succeeded?